Auckland Airport fuel supply obliterated by digger

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#1867762 18-Sep-2017 08:29

freitasm: e Air NZ is known to have bumped passengers off flights to Australia to give priority to cargo. Things may get messy.

Really? Are you saying that a B777 that can fly all the way to Vancouver, can't carry a full load of passengers, bags and freight across the Tasman?
There is the possibility up to the islands, with long alternate requirements for bags and freight, then passengers, to be offloaded to carry more fuel. But that only really affects the A320s.

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#1867763 18-Sep-2017 08:29

freitasm:

Coil:

What Judith Collins has to do with a cowboy digging Swamp Kauri on a digger in Northland is nill.
No different from when a digger hit an irrigation pipeline up the road from a farm my family own, Ah well if there was another it would be good but we dont and didn't have the money to do it.
Sh1te Happens.

Except when there might be a relationship between the company and family interests. And her previous comments on this kind of activities.

I have not seen their operation but I can confirm one thing for you here. There is no protected wetlands around that pipe line. 100 years ago they drained that swamp, They are digging in open grass fields for this Swamp Kauri. I have seen people digging up swamps or wet patches around Dargaville which may bring into question whether it is protected or not but generally all that is left is little ponds and patches in paddocks. But nothing at all in that Ruakaka region.

I also believe there is an Aviation fuel supply line along with a standard oil supply line to Wiri. Redundancy for both wouldn't be cheap.

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#1867764 18-Sep-2017 08:33

freitasm:

Some outbound flights are used to export time sensitive products such as seafood - Air NZ is known to have bumped passengers off flights to Australia to give priority to cargo. Things may get messy.

Qantas have done this semi regularly out of WLG in the past due to some big freight contracts they have.

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#1867765 18-Sep-2017 08:34

Just bowl a few more state houses and extend the tank farm at Wiri (I'm not being serious - well about the state houses anyway.)

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#1867767 18-Sep-2017 08:37

They are saying it will take around 10 days to fix right?

I've heard some people say it might be over a month.

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#1867768 18-Sep-2017 08:40

Build a pipeline from Tauranga to Auckland along Labour's new railway line :)

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#1867769 18-Sep-2017 08:40

And ,this digger driver can be sued for 10's of millions or whatever losses occur. There will be significant losses.

Wouldn't want to be the driver, or the company who employs the driver.

I imagine they have insurance but I would think the damages incurred here will far exceed the maximum payout amount.

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#1867805 18-Sep-2017 08:55

I wonder if there are any signage or marker to mark the pipeline locations. Otherwise no one would know where to stop digging. There are usually signage for power and telecommunication lines but not sure about fuel / gas pipeline.

Perhaps the digging contractor should have been a lot more careful if the area is known to contain pipeline. I think the digging company will be in big trouble as the public liability insurance is unlikely to cover the repair costs and consequential losses.

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#1867806 18-Sep-2017 08:56

On radio this morning the spokesman for the pipeline owners was calling reports of digger damage was "fake news". Whether this is true or just an attempt to duck any criticism for relying on notices on all gates entering a pipeline paddock rather than something more substantial to keep people off the pipe will come out later in court probably.

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#1867807 18-Sep-2017 08:57

And I guess we will see a significant rise in the cost of kauri furniture.

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#1867823 18-Sep-2017 09:20

smalltrader:

I wonder if there are any signage or marker to mark the pipeline locations. Otherwise no one would know where to stop digging. There are usually signage for power and telecommunication lines but not sure about fuel / gas pipeline.

Perhaps the digging contractor should have been a lot more careful if the area is known to contain pipeline. I think the digging company will be in big trouble as the public liability insurance is unlikely to cover the repair costs and consequential losses.

Perhaps it's the land-owner's responsibility? After all, he's given permission for the excavation.

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#1867827 18-Sep-2017 09:21

People without insurance could maybe take class action damage against the digger company?

I don't even know if that is possible here, but I bet the lawyers will be pretty active figuring out who pays.

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#1867834 18-Sep-2017 09:26

Should read this...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11923238

Fault will be tricky. Damage occurred months back and there is only circumstantial evidence that it was this digger.

The pipeline was sign posted, but the signs near the damage were overgrown and could not be seen.

Also, they increased the pipeline pressure which caused the weakpoint to fail.

Seems to be one of those cases where multiple parties are at fault including local council.

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#1867835 18-Sep-2017 09:27

surfisup1000:

I don't even know if that is possible here, but I bet the lawyers will be pretty active figuring out who pays.

Don't be silly, the taxpayer will pay...

The Lawyers will be the only winners as usual in a legal dispute.

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#1867836 18-Sep-2017 09:27

Dingbatt:
freitasm: e Air NZ is known to have bumped passengers off flights to Australia to give priority to cargo. Things may get messy.

Really? Are you saying that a B777 that can fly all the way to Vancouver, can't carry a full load of passengers, bags and freight across the Tasman?
There is the possibility up to the islands, with long alternate requirements for bags and freight, then passengers, to be offloaded to carry more fuel. But that only really affects the A320s.

The problem perhaps is that it can't land at Auckland with enough fuel (plus safety reserves) to fly across the Tasman.

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