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  #3037508 16-Feb-2023 11:42
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Bung: The switch is one of several with a multipin connection rather than individual wires. The dealership probably wouldn't want to Frankenstein something.

 

 

 

They might..when you mention consequential losses 😜





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  #3037552 16-Feb-2023 12:50
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Bung: If you search through Kia owner forums it seems that various models have the same problem with the EPB switch. If you lift the switch up with more than reasonable finger pressure the pivot point starts to break eventually collapsing. The manual says pull the switch leading some to think that how much they pull has some effect on how much the brake comes on.

There was further discussion about Auto Hold. If that was on when car switched off the parking brake was actived.

 

@Bung can you point me in the direction of those Kia Owner Forums please ?

 

Also thanks for the correct terminology - EPB switch





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  #3037560 16-Feb-2023 13:02
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I would be seeking remedy under the CGA. The CGA requires that spare parts are available for a reasonable time. Waiting for 6 weeks plus could be deemed as not meeting that requirements of Section 12(1)





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  #3037566 16-Feb-2023 13:12
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https://www.kiaownersclub.co.uk/threads/electronic-handbrake-button.57056/

That was out of an Optima but other models have same complaint and similar switches.

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  #3037620 16-Feb-2023 13:46
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alasta:

 

The benefit is that is occupies less space on the transmission tunnel, hence allowing more space for storage of small personal items.

 

The OP indicated that the switch has failed. In my experience switchgear failures are extremely rare so it sounds like a case of bad luck rather than over-complicated design. 

 

 

he says it works but sometimes is a bit stiff

 

not sure how that fails a wof but i'm not the tester

 

see https://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/in-service-wof-and-cof/general/brakes/service-brake-and-parking-brake

 

40. The parking brake is unusually difficult to apply or release.


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  #3037904 16-Feb-2023 19:48
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BlakJak:

 

- Cars parked on the street can be ticketed for being out of WoF as well. (I've been avoiding street parking for the last couple of weeks).

 

 

What are you supposed to do if you don't have off-street parking?


 
 
 
 

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  #3037908 16-Feb-2023 19:54
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Aaron2222:

BlakJak:

 

- Cars parked on the street can be ticketed for being out of WoF as well. (I've been avoiding street parking for the last couple of weeks).

 

 

What are you supposed to do if you don't have off-street parking?

 

 

Keep your car road legal, if you want it to be on the road?

 

(I imagine you could apply for leniency if you're within 28 days of your WOF inspection, in retrospect, and you'd probably get it if you could demonstrate it's subsequently been sorted.. i.e. compliance).

 

 

(funnily enough I just found this which seems to agree with me)




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  #3037909 16-Feb-2023 19:55
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Aaron2222:

 

BlakJak:

 

- Cars parked on the street can be ticketed for being out of WoF as well. (I've been avoiding street parking for the last couple of weeks).

 

 

What are you supposed to do if you don't have off-street parking?

 

 

 

 

Get a WOF





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  #3037922 16-Feb-2023 20:37
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blackjack17:

 

Aaron2222:

 

What are you supposed to do if you don't have off-street parking?

 

 

Get a WOF

 

 

And where are you meant to put it in the meantime?


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  #3037929 16-Feb-2023 20:56
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Aaron2222:

 

blackjack17:

 

Get a WOF

 

 

And where are you meant to put it in the meantime?

 

 

Quite simply that's a you problem not a police problem.

 

If you have a car on the road it is required to have a WOF. If it doesn't you need to rectify that or store it off road.

 

It's up to you to comply with the law, if you can't you are open to the consequences.


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  #3037931 16-Feb-2023 21:09
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Handle9:

 

Quite simply that's a you problem not a police problem.

 

If you have a car on the road it is required to have a WOF. If it doesn't you need to rectify that or store it off road.

 

It's up to you to comply with the law, if you can't you are open to the consequences.

 

 

If you're going to leave a car with an expired WOF parked on-street for a while, then sure, that's fair enough I suppose. But just inbetween it failing (and subsequently expiring shortly after I'd imagine) and getting it serviced and re-WOFed? When not having off-street parking isn't uncommon? Or is it just on you to try for a new WOF far enough in advance that you can definitely get it in for servicing before the existing WOF expires?


 
 
 

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  #3037939 16-Feb-2023 21:28
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Aaron2222:

 

Handle9:

 

Quite simply that's a you problem not a police problem.

 

If you have a car on the road it is required to have a WOF. If it doesn't you need to rectify that or store it off road.

 

It's up to you to comply with the law, if you can't you are open to the consequences.

 

 

If you're going to leave a car with an expired WOF parked on-street for a while, then sure, that's fair enough I suppose. But just inbetween it failing (and subsequently expiring shortly after I'd imagine) and getting it serviced and re-WOFed? When not having off-street parking isn't uncommon? Or is it just on you to try for a new WOF far enough in advance that you can definitely get it in for servicing before the existing WOF expires?

 

 

It's on you to have a road legal car if it's on the road. If it doesn't have a WOF it's not legally allowed on the road.

 

If you leave it to the last minute and it fails that's a choice you made and the consequence is you can be fined or worse if the defect causes an accident. Often the police will offer you compliance but that's at their discretion.


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  #3037941 16-Feb-2023 21:37
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Handle9:

 

It's on you to have a road legal car if it's on the road. If it doesn't have a WOF it's not legally allowed on the road.

 

If you leave it to the last minute and it fails that's a choice you made and the consequence is you can be fined or worse if the defect causes an accident. Often the police will offer you compliance but that's at their discretion.

 

 

Sorry, but that's just asinine. What if OP only had on-street parking. Are you saying that they'd be their fault. As I doubt a service center will hold onto the car for you just because you don't have off-street parking.


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  #3037944 16-Feb-2023 21:40
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Aaron2222:

 

Handle9:

 

It's on you to have a road legal car if it's on the road. If it doesn't have a WOF it's not legally allowed on the road.

 

If you leave it to the last minute and it fails that's a choice you made and the consequence is you can be fined or worse if the defect causes an accident. Often the police will offer you compliance but that's at their discretion.

 

 

Sorry, but that's just asinine. What if OP only had on-street parking. Are you saying that they'd be their fault. As I doubt a service center will hold onto the car for you just because you don't have off-street parking.

 

 

It's not complicated. If you don't like it that's your bad luck


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  #3037945 16-Feb-2023 21:43
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Handle9:

 

Aaron2222:

 

Sorry, but that's just asinine. What if OP only had on-street parking. Are you saying that they'd be their fault. As I doubt a service center will hold onto the car for you just because you don't have off-street parking.

 

 

It's not complicated. If you don't like it that's your bad luck

 

 

Ah yes, stuff you for not having off-street parking. That's exactly the sort of attitude the law should take. Anyway, you've made your opinion very clear, and I'm really not interested in anything you in particular have to say about it.


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