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#2975427 30-Sep-2022 12:25

Hey no fair I haven't been able to play my "Volvo 850 Estate that took on the BTCC before the sedan version did" card yet.

(Granted this is getting a bit off-topic 😅)

And all a bit moot because there will be a point where Mustangs will either cease to exist or all be electric.

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#2975431 30-Sep-2022 12:34

I was pondering this morning (while driving my Model 3), whether I would rather have a Model Y Performance or a Mach-E Long Range, as they are essentially the same price. In the end I decided I was happy with my M3 😁. (For now)

Won’t stop me test driving a Mach-E when it’s available. My friendly neighbourhood Ford salesman has my name…..

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#2975682 30-Sep-2022 22:02

GV27:

Hey no fair I haven't been able to play my "Volvo 850 Estate that took on the BTCC before the sedan version did" card yet.

(Granted this is getting a bit off-topic 😅)

And all a bit moot because there will be a point where Mustangs will either cease to exist or all be electric.

I haven't seen anyone on this thread complaining about the Mustang going electric. My issue is with it is that it's become an SUV. Like the Camaro, or Corvette, or 911, or Charger, the Mustang has been synonymous with being a sports sedan. You don't see an SUV Camaro, Corvette, 911 or Charger.

The Volvo 850 Estate really did make name for itself in the BTCC, creating a few red faces at some of the more fancied marques.

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#2976310 2-Oct-2022 15:27

HarmLessSolutions:

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Also, while grabbing a few ergs from the 175kW charger at Ebbert Volkswagen in Hamilton early this afternoon there seemed to be a steady stream of BYDs going past from the nearby dealership. And our first experience using an Openloop charger required a call to their 0800 number to get things moving. Good customer service rep but the whole episode was a bit ropey compared to our previous ChargeNet uses.

I've just discovered that the charge we did at the Ebbert Volkswagen in Hamilton using our Openloop key fob to access has come through as an item on our ChargeNet account. Puzzling as we assumed that the customer service person we spoke to was contacted using the Openloop 0800 number on the charger and the process was initiated using an Openloop RFID fob.

No charge has been made against the $50 credit balance we have on our Openloop account so now wondering how and/or when we will be able to use that balance if ChargeNet overrule the system. I do see that the Ebberts charger is now included on ChargeNet's website listing of chargers, but as not an option on our Polestar's ChargeNet selection. The customer service person on duty today has logged my enquiry and ChargeNet are supposed to contact us tomorrow to explain the situation. Anybody else had a similar experience.

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#2976844 3-Oct-2022 15:14

Counties Energy (northern Waikato) is going to introduce fees at their fast chargers.

Personally feel this is a positive step. Will mean commercial operators (charge net, chargefox, etc.) have a hope of competing, and also means the chargers are more likely to be free for those who need them, rather than those who are just charging cos it is free.

They are also installing two chargers (180kW +24kW) at mercer, which is a good location (especially for those who prefer MacDonald to kfc, which is adjacent to the charge net hyper charger 24km north).

Great to have another 150+ kW chargers, given most of the new EV's sold can charge at more than 50kW.

If the 180kW unit is the ABB Terra 184 duel cord, then it supports charging two EV's simulations (at 90kW each). Assuming the EV's match the plug types on the unit of course

And glad that this is two chargers, rather than one, even if the 24kW one is only really suitable for leaf's like mine, or those opportunity charging while they stop for other reasons.

Assume the 24kW is one of these:

https://www.thundergrid.net/abb-dc-rapid-charger-24kw

I do think we have reached a point in our EV uptake where we should stop building single chargers. High traffic locations should be getting 4 - 6 bays. And low-traffic locations at least a pair of chargers.

Having chargers clustered in multiples dramatically increases the odds of there being a free bay when you arrive vs having single chargers scattered all over the place. Also means that a single charger failure is not a massive deal.

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#2976852 3-Oct-2022 15:39

The gotcha with that ABB charge is that it's most likely 900v at 200a, so any 400v car will only be able to max out at around 80kW

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#2976855 3-Oct-2022 15:41

HarmLessSolutions:

HarmLessSolutions:

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Also, while grabbing a few ergs from the 175kW charger at Ebbert Volkswagen in Hamilton early this afternoon there seemed to be a steady stream of BYDs going past from the nearby dealership. And our first experience using an Openloop charger required a call to their 0800 number to get things moving. Good customer service rep but the whole episode was a bit ropey compared to our previous ChargeNet uses.

I've just discovered that the charge we did at the Ebbert Volkswagen in Hamilton using our Openloop key fob to access has come through as an item on our ChargeNet account. Puzzling as we assumed that the customer service person we spoke to was contacted using the Openloop 0800 number on the charger and the process was initiated using an Openloop RFID fob.

No charge has been made against the $50 credit balance we have on our Openloop account so now wondering how and/or when we will be able to use that balance if ChargeNet overrule the system. I do see that the Ebberts charger is now included on ChargeNet's website listing of chargers, but as not an option on our Polestar's ChargeNet selection. The customer service person on duty today has logged my enquiry and ChargeNet are supposed to contact us tomorrow to explain the situation. Anybody else had a similar experience.

Having been contacted by ChargeNet this morning I was advised that the Ebbert Volkswagen charger is now within ChargeNet's stable as of early August. I assumed that I had accessed the charger using my Openloop RFID fob but the customer service rep (contacted using the ChargeNet contact details on the charger) had initiated the charge remotely which is how it ended up being billed through our ChargeNet account. This also explains our difficulty in accessing the charger using our Openloop RFID fob.

Also worth noting that the Ebbert charger isn't yet recognised as being in the ChargeNet network by our Polestar's onboard (ChargeNet) charger availability database.

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#2976856 3-Oct-2022 15:41

Scott3:

Counties Energy (northern Waikato) is going to introduce fees at their fast chargers.

Personally feel this is a positive step. Will mean commercial operators (charge net, chargefox, etc.) have a hope of competing, and also means the chargers are more likely to be free for those who need them, rather than those who are just charging cos it is free.

Have to agree it's past time for this to happen, even though (as with every EV owner) I have and still do personally benefit from free charging.

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#2976859 3-Oct-2022 15:52

Obraik:

The gotcha with that ABB charge is that it's most likely 900v at 200a, so any 400v car will only be able to max out at around 80kW

There is an option for a high current cable. I hope that option box has been ticked.

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#2976862 3-Oct-2022 15:54

If it's like the 180kW OpenLoop charger at Rolleston then no, it's not

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#2976866 3-Oct-2022 16:13

Obraik:

If it's like the 180kW OpenLoop charger at Rolleston then no, it's not

Open-loop is just a billing service. Hopefully, Counties energy is more on top of this than whoever owns the Rolleston charge station.

Good range of options in the Terra 184 range. The cable management on the 184 CJ version looks quite nice.

Abb Terra Range

Will be a bit of a pity if they are just 200A cable's, given many EV's can charge above this current, but have pack voltages below 400v.

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#2976868 3-Oct-2022 16:17

Z owns the one at Rolleston, it was their first site to roll out chargers. Hopefully Counties has done better research

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#2977014 3-Oct-2022 22:40

Confirmed by counties energy.

Each of the chargers is dual cord Chademo / CCS

The larger charger is the Terra 184 and has the 200A charge cord.

This means only 800V EVs like the EV6 will get close to the rated output. All the Tesla & polestars would be much better served by the charge.net hyper charger 24km north at Bombay.

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#2977253 4-Oct-2022 13:07

A large shipment of Model Ys landing in New Zealand in September has seen Tesla take a convincing top spot in the month’s new vehicle registration numbers, outselling even the normally dominant Ford Ranger.

Tesla registered 1502 Model Y SUVs in September, handily topping the Ranger (1043 units) and Toyota Hilux (989 units) in overall sales, while also taking the top slot in EV registrations (followed by the BYD Atto 3 on 221 units and the MG ZS EV with 178 units), as well as leading the passenger and SUV segment ahead of the Mitsubishi Outlander (867 units) and Mitsubishi ASX (410 units).

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/130062828/tesla-tops-monthly-sales-for-september

(Edit: correct URL)

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#2977422 4-Oct-2022 20:53

A New EV for the NZ market.

SsangYong Korando e-Motion $59,990 +ORC (before rebate)

Makes this the cheapest non china EV on the NZ market.

https://www.motoringnz.com/news/2022/10/4/electric-korando-coming-to-nz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW08c7fteZw

Specs:

140kW FWD
WLTP range of 339 kilometers
61.5kWh battery (55.3kWh usable)
6.6kW single phase AC charging
80kW (max) DC charging
1500kg Braked tow rating
551L boot (after removal of false floor)

The video review says the interior space is comparable with large cars like the Ioniq 5, and say's it gets fairly close to the rated range in he real world (did 295km on test with winter tires and cold conditions).

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