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#3039458 20-Feb-2023 15:33

jarledb:

We need that here!

We could even preempt the Ford Ranger Man objections by also introducing a $50,000 fine for EVs that park at petrol pumps without filling up. Just so they don't feel like it's some woke conspiracy or anything.

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#3039482 20-Feb-2023 15:39

jarledb:

We need that here!

Not sure I would be keen on the fine applying if you charged but are still in the park when full, because it then becomes a race at where you are shopping between the slow staff doing their job and the car finishing. Or if someone unplugs you when its done so you are there but not plugged in.

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#3039488 20-Feb-2023 15:52

richms:

Not sure I would be keen on the fine applying if you charged but are still in the park when full, because it then becomes a race at where you are shopping between the slow staff doing their job and the car finishing. Or if someone unplugs you when its done so you are there but not plugged in.

I think idle fees are sufficient incentive there. You know it's costing you money so you don't faff around, but yeah you won't get accidentally stung $2K because the pensioner in front of you wants to pay in loose change.

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#3039491 20-Feb-2023 15:55

The problem with fines is you need resources to enforce it. Councils don't seem particularly interested in enforcing existing rules around parking on footpaths or on yellow lines.

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#3039496 20-Feb-2023 16:00

jarledb:

DS248:

NSW introduces fines of up to $2,200 for “ICEing” electric vehicle charging stations. Also appears to apply to EV's if not plugged in: “A driver must not stop in a parking area for the charging of electric-powered vehicles unless the electric-powered vehicle is plugged into an external source of electricity.”

We need that here!

Although I'm a bit confused as to how effective this might be thou,

Aren't most "public" chargers in NZ are on private land?, so public legislation on penalties etc don't apply,

The car park operator could ping you now if they wanted to ... they dont....

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#3039498 20-Feb-2023 16:01

richms:

jarledb:

We need that here!

Not sure I would be keen on the fine applying if you charged but are still in the park when full, because it then becomes a race at where you are shopping between the slow staff doing their job and the car finishing. Or if someone unplugs you when its done so you are there but not plugged in.

I imagine that regulation such as this will include a 'grace period' to cover such instances as is the case for parking fines for some councils.

Being unplugged by another EV owner is a potential issue but how many EVs allow the plug to be removed unless the charge is complete? If the charge is done then the idle charge is ticking so the offending non-charging EV should be well aware they run the risk of a fine for occupying the space illegally.

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#3039514 20-Feb-2023 16:45

For those in Christchurch the Orion chargenet AC chargers are moving to a 40c/kWh charge from 1/3. I knew the free ride would come to an end eventually but they are quite avoidable if you just plug in at night. Still cheaper than the fast chargers if you're not in a rush though. Hopefully they ditch the 1 hour parking limit on them if I'm paying to park there.

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#3039524 20-Feb-2023 17:09

jarledb: We need that here!

Is it really a thing in NZ? I thought most are on private property and adding a large threat of towing sign would be enough.

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#3039880 21-Feb-2023 08:52

gzt:
jarledb: We need that here!

Is it really a thing in NZ? I thought most are on private property and adding a large threat of towing sign would be enough.

We have towaway warning signs in the private car parks at my housing complex and they are not particularly effective for two reasons:

People know that it will take at least half an hour get a tow truck on site, so they know they can squat there for short periods with no consequences.
Car park owners are reluctant to call the tow truck because of the paperwork and liability risks.

Honestly, the only effective solution is to physically obstruct the charging bays from nuisance vehicles. This could be done by sectioning off the EV charging bays and putting a barrier arm in front which raises when the EV user presents their method of payment.

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#3040284 21-Feb-2023 19:23

Biden announces new charger compatibility and payment processing rules. Tesla announces 7500 proprietary chargers in USA will open to all users. That will come in handy to charge all those Ford F150 Lightnings.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/02/tesla-finally-agrees-to-open-its-charging-network-to-all-evs-in-us/

This is part of Biden's goal to see 500,000 public chargers in USA by 2030. Tesla supports this aim for increased adoption.

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#3040428 21-Feb-2023 23:35

I think a big selling point for Teslas in the US is the Supercharger network. Them being plentiful, reliable and simple to use. The proprietary connector probably also helped. But it is a unique selling point.
Opening the SCs up may be double edged sword there. As I understand it pretty much all SCs are laid out for Teslas to be reversed in and charged and the cables are only long enough to do that. Imagine the kerfuffle caused by other EVs pulling into the “wrong” bay to charge. Particularly in a country where people carry guns and have short fuses.

Changing the proprietary port to CCS on the Model 3 and Y should be simple since they already have them in international markets.

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#3040440 22-Feb-2023 06:13

Dingbatt:

Changing the proprietary port to CCS on the Model 3 and Y should be simple since they already have them in international markets.

Drive EV do this the other way around for Japanese Teslas, from what I understand.

As for the Americans, I mean... good. I get pretty tired of the 'BUT THERE'S NO SUPERCHARGER NETWORK!!!1111' on every single non-Tesla EV article.

They seem to think it undermines the worth of the vehicle itself, when it's really just an extremely specific feature that applies in their incredibly weird car market.

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#3040568 22-Feb-2023 15:14

GV27:

Drive EV do this the other way around for Japanese Teslas, from what I understand.

As for the Americans, I mean... good. I get pretty tired of the 'BUT THERE'S NO SUPERCHARGER NETWORK!!!1111' on every single non-Tesla EV article.

They seem to think it undermines the worth of the vehicle itself, when it's really just an extremely specific feature that applies in their incredibly weird car market.

I mean, being able to charge it easily when you're road tripping is an important aspect. If it's always a chore due to consistently faulty chargers then it doesn't matter how good the car might be, if you spend the majority of your day trying to find a working charger it's not going to be pleasant experience. I think we here in NZ take for granted how well run our charging networks are (although our networks don't have to deal with the extreme weather conditions that the US does).

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#3042609 27-Feb-2023 11:06

Good to see more options available with the Skoda Enyaq available to order. Stuff reviewed it in the weekend: https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/131334787/first-drive-skoda-enyaq-iv.

I had debated holding off buying an EV until I was able to try this out as it looked like it was going to be the only ‘affordable’ EV other than the Model Y that had the boot space we needed. But having seen the current models I’m glad I didn’t wait - great battery life with about 100km more than the MY RWD (about 530) but a 0-100 time of 8.6 seconds ain’t so hot.

As for the pricing - starts at $93k, so over $20k more than the MY (after rebate), so even on that metric it wouldn’t have been a viable option for us. The review points out leg room in the rear is superior to the Y and I know the boot is capacious, so a good option for those looking for space and don’t mind paying that much for such lethargic performance. I imagine they’ve got their work cut out producing a version under the $80k limit (and imagine how slow it would be).

My wife will be pleased - she objected to the idea of a Skoda based on name alone! Bring on a mid-sized Cupra which, if it looks anything like the Formentor, could be interesting…

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#3042697 27-Feb-2023 12:04

Pretty disappointing there's only a single motor RWD version in NZ, just like the ID4. Plenty of use case in NZ for AWD, so why are they ignored?

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