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#157655 8-Dec-2014 16:10
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Hi Team,

Some bright sparks on the construction site next door splashed concrete on my car and it wasn't noticed for 24 hours by which time it was well dry.  A dozen 10c coin sized splashes up the side and on the roof.  The company involved is a reputable one and they have asked me to get a quote for resolving for them to approve.

Not entirely sure whether to take it to a groomer or a panel beater?  I'm thinking the former, but wondered if some of you might have a related experience and suggestion.  West Auckland location.

Thanks in advance





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  #1191683 8-Dec-2014 16:20
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I would have a crack at water blasting it off.



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  #1191687 8-Dec-2014 16:23
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I'd tend to go for the panelbeater / car painter rather than a groomer.
I'd expect that unless it's thick globs, it should probably come off easily by applying some weak acid - perhaps even white vinegar would be strong enough, then if there's some faint marking visible, hopefully that might buff off.  But concrete is quite strongly alkaline - and you won't know whether that's damaged or discoloured the paint until it's been removed - so it should probably be cleaned off before determining the final cost - if the paint is stuffed, then it will cost serious $$$ to repaint entire panels.

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  #1191688 8-Dec-2014 16:23
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I would ask my insurer. Even tho it's not them paying. You don't know 100% it will go as planned.

Panelbeater. Very few car groomers are experts in paint and finishes.



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  #1191693 8-Dec-2014 16:33
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I also would go with a reputable body shop, I certainly would not try anything myself, if you stuff up you would be on your own.

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  #1191706 8-Dec-2014 17:07
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give Rob from Car groomers a call and get his advice...
a panel beater will just want to scrape it off and repaint...thats what they do. "proper" car groomers will know what to do and preserve the paint..

oh and this is why its a good idea to look after your paint and wax once a year..then stuff like that wont stick to the paint.

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  #1191709 8-Dec-2014 17:12
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Concrete is highly corrosive - get it on your hands and they're chemically burned. A groomer may get it off but it could have eaten into the paint, you may only see the real damage in a few years. Note that I don't really know if this will happen, but I'm risk averse especially when I'm spending someone else's money.

I'd take it to a car painter and have them repaint the panels that are affected. They may need to repaint the whole car to get a match. $2-$3k.

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  #1192291 9-Dec-2014 16:12
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Thank you team.

I'm going to take what is probably the obvious route and make an insurance claim.  While the paint was pretty good, if I'm lucky there might be the silver lining of a complete respray.




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  #1192292 9-Dec-2014 16:16
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Dynamic: Thank you team.

 insurance claim. complete respray.


You obviously haven't dealt with an insurance company recently or ever :)

They are more likely to match the other doors by splashing concrete on  them. See clause 436a paragraph 19.....

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  #1192299 9-Dec-2014 16:34
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I wouldn't do it through insurance, it could affect your no claims bonus - though if the construction firm take responsibility (as they have) maybe not. I'd just get a quote from a good car painter and have them do it. 

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  #1192304 9-Dec-2014 16:42
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TAKE IT TO A CAR GROOMER!!

they are specialists in paint correction. I.E getting paint back to its best condition....if you get it painted theres a 80% chance the WHOLE PANEL wont match the rest of the car. even if the paint correction doesnt work , id rather have a few 10 cent imperfections than half the car a different colour because the paint match isnt 100.00%

give these guys a try.
https://www.facebook.com/theglossmaster

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  #1192334 9-Dec-2014 17:58
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http://www.theglossmaster.co.nz/ I have been following them on facebook, they are quite good with paint correction.

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  #1192335 9-Dec-2014 18:06
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I thought you can still do this through insurance and get them to claim/deal with the said construction company.

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  #1192379 9-Dec-2014 20:25
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timmmay: 

I'd take it to a car painter and have them repaint the panels that are affected. They may need to repaint the whole car to get a match. $2-$3k.


LOL, (sorry)..
These days a colour match is dead easy on any car, without having to respray the whole thing.
I'm a spray-painter, and there's no way they'd respray a whole car without cash, or a factory recall payment (2006 fords, early toyotas, etc).
NO insurance company will pay for a full respray unless it was a new car and was vandalised on every panel. The labour involved is about 2-3k, not counting materials. Ford australia just fronted up for my old supervisors car (he's also a painter) and it cost them about $4k and he didn't even get to paint it.
What they'll do is respray the bits and blend. And nobody will be the wiser for a few years, when the clearcoat starts to go white along the edges, and it looks like crap.

Take it to a decent detailer first.

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  #1192402 9-Dec-2014 21:12
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blakamin:
timmmay: 

I'd take it to a car painter and have them repaint the panels that are affected. They may need to repaint the whole car to get a match. $2-$3k.


LOL, (sorry)..
These days a colour match is dead easy on any car, without having to respray the whole thing.
I'm a spray-painter, and there's no way they'd respray a whole car without cash, or a factory recall payment (2006 fords, early toyotas, etc).
NO insurance company will pay for a full respray unless it was a new car and was vandalised on every panel. The labour involved is about 2-3k, not counting materials. Ford australia just fronted up for my old supervisors car (he's also a painter) and it cost them about $4k and he didn't even get to paint it.
What they'll do is respray the bits and blend. And nobody will be the wiser for a few years, when the clearcoat starts to go white along the edges, and it looks like crap.

Take it to a decent detailer first.


My logic is paint on old cars fades, so on older cars it would be difficult to match. We're not talking about an insurance job here, we're talking about damage done by a company who will pay for it. If it's not necessary of course you wouldn't bother.

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  #1192415 9-Dec-2014 21:42
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Get in contact with Andrew from nolimits.net.nz
they are mobile and will sort it out. seen his work in person and its gtreat...check out the website

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