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#2498010 4-Jun-2020 10:49

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Rikkitic:

... Van Gogh is considered one of the greatest artists in the world today. But he was also a troubled soul in his lifetime. I appreciate his paintings but I don't think I would have wanted to have him over for dinner.

Me neither.

I might have lent him an ear though. 😛

Did Eric Clapton really think she looked wonderful...or was it after the 15th outfit she tried on and he just wanted to get to the party and get a drink?

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#2498012 4-Jun-2020 10:55

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On Tuesday Trump once again compared himself to Abraham Lincoln, tweeting:

... AND THE BEST IS YET TO COME!

This must be one of the most ludicrous Trump tweets yet. Right out of the Narcissist text book. 😐

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#2498014 4-Jun-2020 10:59

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The article by the writer of 'The Art of the Deal' (Schwartz) has it right, in my not so humble opinion, when he says Trump is a psychopath with absolutely no empathy, sympathy, remorse etc etc etc. He just isn't capable of normal human instincts, especially those that relate to others and to truth.

So, no good trying to work out how he ticks.

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#2498015 4-Jun-2020 10:59

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I wonder if DT knows that Abraham Lincoln actually did very little for the average black person. Most were still slaves when he was assassinated.

I see the Secretary of Defence has said that troops won;t be used to quell demonstrations. He'll be down the Job Centre tomorrow morning.

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#2498081 4-Jun-2020 11:50

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Varkk:

I used to quite like Dilbert back in the early 2000s. However at some point it became obvious that Scott Adams had crawled so far up himself he really lost touch. Probably it was around 2005/6 for me.

I still think some of the cartoons he does today are funny.

Taking Rikki's point - I guess my issue is he used to come across as a nice guy who was quite switched on, etc. Somewhere along the way (presumably when Trump decided to enter politics) he completely changed his viewpoint and now he's Trump this, Trump that. I agree he's allowed his freedom to express his political opinions, but does he need to be such a dick about it? Especially defending someone like Trump.

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#2498082 4-Jun-2020 11:50

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kingdragonfly: A British doctor says....

Updated variant of another joke:

A man is in a car accident that partially crushes his skull, and the surgeons have to remove quarter of his brain. They want to check his functioning and ask him to say something, and he starts talking about the accident. Then they have to remove another quarter of his brain, and ask him to say something. Same deal. Third quarter, same deal. Then they remove all of his brain and ask him to say something. He responds with "I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words".

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#2498084 4-Jun-2020 11:53

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quickymart:
No doubt Adams is talented but I think his fawning adoration of Trump is going to make his (future) professional life quite difficult. Certainly he's probably finished with a professional speaking career, for now anyway.

Is it actually fawning adoration or is it a somewhat autistic examination of why he's been so successful? A lot of it looks more like a read-it-in-a-book attempt to psychoanalyze how Trump manipulates people. In particular the little I looked at seemed like an amateur's attempt to read meaning into random ramblings and try and find a master plan behind what's just a very persuasive manipulator spouting crap.

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A while back the US Navy took punitive measures against a captain who stood up for his people during the Covid19 outbreak. Look at what the US Air Force did in a similar kind of situation:

The chief of staff of the US Air Force, Gen. David Goldfein, sent a memo to commanders late Monday calling the death of George Floyd a "national tragedy" and voicing support for the service's top enlistee, Chief Master Sgt. Kaleth Wright, after he made a passionate plea for justice, vowing to do more to fix racial inequality among the ranks, according to a copy of the message obtained by CNN.

Now that's leadership.

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SJB:

I see the Secretary of Defence has said that troops won;t be used to quell demonstrations. He'll be down the Job Centre tomorrow morning.

Maybe. That creates the possibility of a serious problem for Trump. His other former (confirmed) Secretary of Defence has denounced Trump as a threat to the constitution, and compared Trump to Nazis in a scathing article in The Atlantic.

“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us,” Mattis writes. “We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.”

He goes on to contrast the American ethos of unity with Nazi ideology. “Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that ‘The Nazi slogan for destroying us … was “Divide and Conquer.” Our American answer is “In Union there is Strength.”’ We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis—confident that we are better than our politics.”

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#2498137 4-Jun-2020 13:12

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Great article in, of all things, the Daily Sabah, the Turkish answer to Fox News, analysing Trump's lying:

1. The lie does matter to them: What matters in their fancy is that people around them (in the curious case of Donald Trump, the whole world population) are waiting to hear what he thinks.

2. Telling the truth feels like giving up control: Trump has to have the final word on legislative issues, otherwise those old Republicans and their young and idiotic advisers will have the control of the Capitol. His narcissistic ego cannot accept being second to anyone.

3. They don't want to disappoint you: Trump who tells lie after lie is worried about losing the respect of the U.S. and the world politicians. His narcissistic ego needs to be admired continually.

4. Lies snowball: So, Trump needs a new lie to explain out the previous one which has been fact-checked by the CNN, and now the whole world knows he lied.

5. It's not a lie to them: It is not important for him that he said the Mueller report should be publicly released a week ago, and now he says it shouldn't be. That is the fact in his mind now; and he is simply speaking his mind.

6. They want it to be true: The hurricane relief help of $91 billion to Puerto Rico, the U.S. Democrats wanting to kill babies after birth as part of birth control, describing democratic rallies having 200-300 people, 58,000 non-citizens voting in Texas, having 25 million illegal residents in the U.S., and almost all other 240 lies documented and checked by the Politifact.com are actually what Trump wishes to be true. He badly desires that they be true. He hopes that he can make them come true by saying it.

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#2498139 4-Jun-2020 13:18

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Presidential Bible Study:

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#2498140 4-Jun-2020 13:19

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I think this has happened before too, but maybe not on this scale:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/06/republican-supporters-turn-on-donald-trump-in-new-campaign-to-vote-for-joe-biden.html

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Varkk:

I used to quite like Dilbert back in the early 2000s. However at some point it became obvious that Scott Adams had crawled so far up himself he really lost touch. Probably it was around 2005/6 for me.

I still think some of the cartoons he does today are funny.

Taking Rikki's point - I guess my issue is he used to come across as a nice guy who was quite switched on, etc. Somewhere along the way (presumably when Trump decided to enter politics) he completely changed his viewpoint and now he's Trump this, Trump that. I agree he's allowed his freedom to express his political opinions, but does he need to be such a dick about it? Especially defending someone like Trump.

Yeah, some are still funny, but it is less frequent from the early 2000s. I guess beginning during the dotcom bubble gave him plenty of material etc.

Even before Trump he made some problematic statements on his blog. Mostly it was low-key misogynist type stuff. I think it mostly flew under the radar because no one read his blog. In the Mid-2000s he seemed to think he was the greatest thing on the internet and branched out in to other things, do you remember the Dilberito?

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#2498155 4-Jun-2020 13:45

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I hadn't actually until I read about it on Wikipedia recently. Were they even available here?
A friend in America sent me some Dilbert-branded mints in around 2001, but that's the only other merchandise I had, apart from books and the odd calendar.

It's such a pity really, he talks about having enough "f--k you money" now to not care about it, but yet he says (you could also say "complains") he's lost almost half his income.

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quickymart:

.... he talks about having enough "f--k you money" now to not care about it, but yet he says (you could also say "complains") he's lost almost half his income.

That's a pretty good summation of greedy capitalism right there.

Did Eric Clapton really think she looked wonderful...or was it after the 15th outfit she tried on and he just wanted to get to the party and get a drink?

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