Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

✨ Samsung | AliExpress | Wise | Sharesies | GoodSync | Free white papers

Welcome Guest.

You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.

To post in this sub-forum you must have made 100 posts or have Trust status or have completed our ID Verification

Forums › Politics › Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

1 | ... | 1925 | 1926 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1931 | 1932 | 1933 | 1934 | 1935 | ... | 2317

geekIT

2417 posts

Uber Geek

#3166824 1-Dec-2023 15:54

Send private message

IMHO, some of the media are, wisely, cautioning against optimistic expectations of Trump's downfall, even though it seems very likely that he is close to his end. Personally, I'll be very surprised if he's not more of a farce than a force by this time next year, or even not with us at all.

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

quickymart

13925 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

#3167061 2-Dec-2023 07:54

Send private message

https://www.axios.com/2023/12/01/trump-government-job-applications-2025 >> I would have expected a question along the lines of "do you think the 2020 election was stolen from Trump?" 🙄

kingdragonfly

11190 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

#3167073 2-Dec-2023 09:02

Send private message

Death by a thousand cuts. I wonder what's the record for largest legal bills, and where Trump ranks?

Note that civil cases have a lower burden of proof than criminal cases. Rather than requiring criminal law's “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard of evidence, civil law operates on a “preponderance of evidence” standard which, according to Cornell Law School, is a “greater than 51-percent chance that the [plaintiff's] claim is true.

Trump doesn’t have presidential immunity from lawsuits over January 6, appeals court rules

CNN

Former President Donald Trump isn’t immune from being held accountable in civil lawsuits related to January 6, 2021, in a long-awaited, consequential decision from the federal appeals court in Washington, DC

quickymart

13925 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

#3167145 2-Dec-2023 11:41

Send private message

This is also quite alarming - literally (all of it): https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/you-are-really-not-sufficiently-alarmed

geekIT

2417 posts

Uber Geek

#3167216 2-Dec-2023 15:54

Send private message

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

Sideface

9350 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

DR

Lifetime subscriber

#3167455 3-Dec-2023 14:05

Send private message

quickymart: This is also quite alarming - literally (all of it): https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/you-are-really-not-sufficiently-alarmed

Sideface

kingdragonfly

11190 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

#3167872 4-Dec-2023 11:09

Send private message

A couple of jokes from "Saturday Night Live"

"Melania Trump made a rare appearance in public at former first lady's Roslyn Carter's funeral, aged 96. Melania said she was deeply saddened to be reminded your partner can live that long."

"One of the founders of the black lives matter movement announced he is supporting Donald Trump for president. I assume he announced it during a traffic stop."

Washington Post: Trump tries to embrace Black Lives Matter, a group he previously said ‘hates our country’

Former president Donald Trump on Wednesday touted the support he has received from a Black Lives Matter activist, inaccurately claiming that he’s receiving broader support from the group — which he has denounced and blamed for violence for years.

Trump wrote Wednesday on Truth Social, his social media platform, that he spoke with Mark Fisher — who has billed himself as the co-founder of Black Lives Matter Rhode Island — and was “very honored to have his and BLM’s support.” He also repeated his frequent assertion that he has “done more for Black people than any other President.”

Fisher, a former Democrat who founded Maryland-based BLM Inc., recently expressed his support for Trump, telling Fox News, “We’re not stupid. … We understand when someone’s for us and when someone is not, and it’s obvious that the Democratic Party is not for us.”

BLM Inc. states on its website that it is “not affiliated with any other Black Lives Matter Movement” and it is “not politically focused or driven nor do we align or affiliate with any particular political party or politics.”

The founder of Black Lives Matter Rhode Island, Gary Dantzler, told WPRI he was “disgusted” by Fisher’s remarks and that Fisher “does not represent Black Lives Matter.” He said in a separate interview with the Providence Journal that Fisher was “absolutely not” a co-founder of Black Lives Matter Rhode Island but that he did work as an advocate for the group for a matter of months.

Black Lives Matter RI PAC — an organization separate from Black Lives Matter Rhode Island — released a joint statement with the national Black Lives Matter organization, despite there being no affiliation between them, that sought to make clear that Fisher was not affiliated with their groups, calling the endorsement of Trump “a publicity stunt” and Fisher “an imposter.”
...

kingdragonfly

11190 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

#3167892 4-Dec-2023 11:32

Send private message

Quotes from the foolish Mark Fisher on a legal, city-authorized "Black Lives Matter" mural in his home state: The mural is "slap in the face," claiming they were not part of the plans to construct the mural.

"It defeats the purpose. It goes against the whole point of why we are out here on the front lines doing what we do every day. It's so that we can be part of this conversation. Then to just come down here and see a huge, Black Lives Matter mural that we had no idea about, to me, is not only a sign of disrespect, but also very condescending."

Fisher on Fox News this week:

"It's the duplicity of the Democrats, the hypocrisy. We're not stupid. The brothers are not stupid. We understand when someone's for us and when someone is not, and it's obvious that the Democratic Party is not for us.

Their policies actually strike at the heart of the Black family and the nuclear family.

We've been used and abused for so long by that party, they don't value our vote. Their policies are basically racist policies. I believe it's a racist party. Donald Trump is just the opposite. He's he's going to tell you how it is. He's going to give it to you straight.

Trump has done more for the Black community than I can any president I can think of in my lifetime.

A lot of people are misinformed. They don't really understand because they don't educate themselves on Donald Trump as a person and his history, but if they do that, and it's going to take… educated leaders to getting the word out there, I think that it'll happen on its own, and it'll be organic, because personally, I love the man."

kingdragonfly

11190 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

#3168095 4-Dec-2023 18:47

Send private message

For those confused, a dumb idea gone bad. These "electors" are from the bizarre, and powerful, electoral college. The republican tried to stall the elections by having fake electors show up, to give Trump enough time to execute his coup.

The Independent: Trump attorney charged in Georgia 2020 case begins cooperating in Nevada probe

The state-level criminal investigation into the 2020 election “fake electors” plot in Nevada has secured the cooperation of a key witness — Kenneth Chesebro, the lawyer who orchestrated the scheme to overturn Joe Biden’s win in the state.

Both CNN and The Washington Post report that Mr Chesebro has agreed to meet with investigators in the state in a bid to avoid prosecution there.

He pleaded guilty to charges relating to the plot in Georgia and as part of that plea deal has agreed to cooperate with the prosecution in the sprawling racketeering case against former president Donald Trump and 14 other co-defendants.

Mr Chesebro also agreed to cooperate with any relevant cases in the future both inside and outside the state.

The fake elector plot was to put forward slates of alternate pro-Trump Electoral College voters in multiple states — Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and New Mexico — with Mr Chesebro spelling out in a series of memos what they should do to return Mr Trump to the White House and snatch the election from Mr Biden.
...
Why the Electoral College Ruins Democracy

Adam Ruins Everything - truTV

Sideface

9350 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

DR

Lifetime subscriber

#3168217 5-Dec-2023 07:50

Send private message

An important opinion piece by Jennifer Rubin, with a free link to the full text:

The Washington Post - Opinion - Trump’s biggest loss yet: No immunity [free link]

04 Dec 2023

U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan on Friday issued a stunning rebuke to four-times indicted former president Donald Trump, rejecting his motion to dismiss his Jan. 6, 2021, charges on absolute immunity and other specious constitutional grounds.

The ruling came just hours after an appellate court rejected Trump’s immunity claim in a parallel civil case.

Chutkan’s ruling might turn out to be the most consequential legal defeat yet for Trump and quite possibly a decisive turning point in the 2024 presidential election.

In dispensing with Trump’s criminal immunity claim, Chutkan held emphatically, “The Constitution’s text, structure, and history do not support that contention. No court - or any other branch of government - has ever accepted it. And this court will not so hold.”

She continued, “Whatever immunities a sitting President may enjoy, the United States has only one Chief Executive at a time, and that position does not confer a lifelong ‘get-out-of-jail-free’ pass.”

She added, “Former Presidents enjoy no special conditions on their federal criminal liability. Defendant may be subject to federal investigation, indictment, prosecution, conviction, and punishment for any criminal acts undertaken while in office.” ...

“Judge Chutkan’s ruling is, quite simply, as solid as a rock and as piercing as tempered steel,” constitutional scholar Laurence H. Tribe told me. “Aided by the D.C. Circuit’s unanimous rejection just hours earlier of Mr. Trump’s parallel but somewhat stronger claim in the civil liability context, Judge Chutkan has now rendered a devastating blow to the former president’s pretensions to what she rightly dismissed as a kinglike prerogative, one that our entire system of government rebels against.” ...

We live in hope ... 🙄

Sideface

kingdragonfly

11190 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

#3168303 5-Dec-2023 13:05

Send private message

Slate: Trump Is Outraged, for Some Reason, About the Idea That He Stopped Eating After Jan. 6

Trump: "Crazy Liz Cheney, who suffers from Trump Derangement Syndrome at a level rarely seen before, writes in her boring new book that Keven McCarthy said he came to Mar-a-Lago after the RIGGED election because, “the former president was depressed and not eating.” That statement is not true. I was not depressed, I WAS ANGRY, and it was not that I was not eating, it was that I was eating too much. But that’s not why Keven McCarthy was there. He was at Mar-a-Lago to get my support, and to bring the Republican Party together - Only good intentions."

It appears Trump perceives sadness or depression as emotional conditions that connote weakness; in his effort to make the record show instead that he was doing the opposite of what a beta male would do, he is obligated to say that instead of not eating, he was eating all sorts of things, probably including steaks, big hamburgers, bacon, and parts of a used muffler.
...

kingdragonfly

11190 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

#3168702 6-Dec-2023 09:34

Send private message

Note that Trump has put forward broker Lawrence Moens as a defense witness.

Lawrence has claimed Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago Club was worth more than $1.2 billion in 2021 -- roughly double the value listed in Trump's statement of financial condition.

Previously the broker sold a Russian billionaire a Palm Beach estate from President Donald Trump. Shortly before the sale, it been priced at $39.8 million, and went unsold.

It was sold to a company linked to Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million. He spent nearly a year in jail on murder charges, of general director of Netfchimik, which produced industrial alcohol.

The sale raised questions about any dealings among Russian entities and Trump, his family, campaign aides and business associates.

Trump has denied all wrongdoing and his attorneys have argued that Trump's alleged inflated valuations were a product of his "business skill."

I guess the same doubling of property values, sold to Dmitry's company, was also due to Trump's "business skill."

floydbloke

3522 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

#3168922 6-Dec-2023 18:03

Send private message

Came across this on Facebook. Refences the British specifically but most of it applies to many other nationalities as well, and I thought it was too apt not to share it here.

Someone on Facebook:

Just thinking……

“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?

A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:

• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.

• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?' If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.”

Did Eric Clapton really think she looked wonderful...or was it after the 15th outfit she tried on and he just wanted to get to the party and get a drink?

Rikkitic

Awrrr
18657 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

#3168981 6-Dec-2023 18:52

Send private message

floydbloke:

Came across this on Facebook. Refences the British specifically but most of it applies to many other nationalities as well, and I thought it was too apt not to share it here...

I wish I had said that!

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

quickymart

13925 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

#3169069 6-Dec-2023 21:49

Send private message

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/04/politics/fourth-gop-debate-candidates/index.html

Of course, Trump will skip this one too - no way will he want to be criticised over his record when he was president. The petulant child can't stand being told he's not good, or he did something wrong. He'll just coward out and do another recorded interview with Tucker Carlson on Twitter, I imagine.

1 | ... | 1925 | 1926 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1931 | 1932 | 1933 | 1934 | 1935 | ... | 2317

News and reviews »

Air New Zealand Starts AI adoption with OpenAI
Posted 24-Jul-2025 16:00

eero Pro 7 Review
Posted 23-Jul-2025 12:07

BeeStation Plus Review
Posted 21-Jul-2025 14:21

eero Unveils New Wi-Fi 7 Products in New Zealand
Posted 21-Jul-2025 00:01

WiZ Introduces HDMI Sync Box and other Light Devices
Posted 20-Jul-2025 17:32

RedShield Enhances DDoS and Bot Attack Protection
Posted 20-Jul-2025 17:26

Seagate Ships 30TB Drives
Posted 17-Jul-2025 11:24

Oclean AirPump A10 Water Flosser Review
Posted 13-Jul-2025 11:05

Samsung Galaxy Z Fold7: Raising the Bar for Smartphones
Posted 10-Jul-2025 02:01

Samsung Galaxy Z Flip7 Brings New Edge-To-Edge FlexWindow
Posted 10-Jul-2025 02:01

Epson Launches New AM-C550Z WorkForce Enterprise printer
Posted 9-Jul-2025 18:22

Samsung Releases Smart Monitor M9
Posted 9-Jul-2025 17:46

Nearly Half of Older Kiwis Still Write their Passwords on Paper
Posted 9-Jul-2025 08:42

D-Link 4G+ Cat6 Wi-Fi 6 DWR-933M Mobile Hotspot Review
Posted 1-Jul-2025 11:34

Oppo A5 Series Launches With New Levels of Durability
Posted 30-Jun-2025 10:15

Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

RSS feeds: Main feed; Forums feed
Copyright: ©2002-2025 Geekzone®

Site features: Geekzone BI dashboard; Geekzone Badges; Geekzone Status Page

Affiliate links: Samsung; AliExpress; Wise; Sharesies; GoodSync

Site Information: Subscribe to Geekzone; Privacy Statement; Forum Usage Guidelines (FUG); Advertising; Trademark and copyright