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  #3279815 7-Sep-2024 22:34
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It's never "the right time to talk about guns" with Republicans.

 

They're deplorables.





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  #3279833 8-Sep-2024 07:54
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As I mentioned before, "USA Today" is a centrist, bland newspaper. So this headline is unusual.

USA Today: Trump knew "Moms for Liberty" was the perfect crowd for his hate speech. So he let it fly.

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump was in peak form at a Moms for Liberty event last week, where he sounded as racist, pompous and incomprehensible as ever. Is anyone surprised?
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Trans people were a bigger focus of the interview, with Trump being egged on by the moderator. Justice said there is an “explosion” of trans children existing in the United States.

They spent a lot of time talking about Imane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who won Olympic gold at this year’s Paris Summer Games. Not only is Khelif cisgender, but she’s taking legal action against people who have fed the speculation that she's trans.
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Trump also said that children are receiving gender-affirming surgeries in school. Yes, seriously: “Think of it, your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation."

I can’t believe it has to be said: No one is performing gender-affirming surgery at school. To suggest that is ridiculous.
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He also took a significant amount of time to talk about immigration, using the same hateful rhetoric he’s been known to use over the course of his political career.

“Our country is being poisoned,” Trump told the crowd. “And your schools and your children are suffering greatly because they’re going into the classrooms, they’re taking the seats and they don’t even speak English.”
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The fact that Trump is speaking at a Moms for Liberty event is significant. The group was founded in 2021 to oppose mask mandates and has quickly taken on other issues that challenge the "woke mind virus."

The event was also cosponsored by The Heritage Foundation, the group behind the ultraconservative Project 2025. Although the former president running for reelection says he has no ties to the group, he has used some of their ideas in his party platform, like dismantling the Department of Education.

In case that doesn't concern you enough, Trump also said to Moms for Liberty that school boards are "like dictatorships."

This, of course, does not seem to bother the Moms for Liberty crowd. At the end of the conversation, Justice noted that the group traditionally only endorses in school board races but that she personally endorsed Trump for the presidency.

In the end, I'm just surprised anyone on the right can take Trump and these extremists seriously. Republicans should know better, but they seem content to let the face of their party spew hate. It means the rest of us must take him as a serious threat and keep him from returning to the White House.

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  #3279836 8-Sep-2024 08:14
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Trump’s campaign stop today in Wisconsin is now rare outdoor rallies he has held since he was nearly assassinated at a fairgrounds in Pennsylvania.

He seems to be using airports for outdoor rallies.

The podium in Mosinee is surrounded by what looks like large panels of glass.

Unfortunately children were given balloons. Blue ones said "Harris, hands off my wiener" and pink ones said "Future baby factory." One popped. Trump hit the ground and said "I'm too rich and pretty to die!" Luckily he was wearing diapers.

OK, I made that last part up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



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  #3280051 8-Sep-2024 17:43
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While true, I found this story funny. It's not a nefarious plot; just someone at Amazon messed up.

Washington Post: Amazon’s Alexa favored Harris over Trump after AI upgrade

In the video, a woman asked Alexa “Why should I vote for Donald Trump?” and the assistant replied, “I cannot provide content that promotes a specific political party or a specific candidate.”

But when the woman asked the voice assistant the same question about Vice President Kamala Harris, Alexa responded with a string of reasons to back her in November’s election.

“While there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris, the most significant may be that she is a strong candidate with a proven track record of accomplishments,” the AI assistant said. “As the first female vice president, Harris has already broken down major gender barriers and her career in politics has been characterized by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on helping disenchanted communities.”
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  #3280099 8-Sep-2024 19:46
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/donald-trump-looks-excite-white-small-town-base-wisconsin-rally-2024-09-07/

 

He repeatedly presented migrants as a grave danger to Wisconsin, warning without evidence that immigrants in the country illegally could evict local residents from their homes.

 

How the hell does that one work, I wonder? 🤔


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  #3280167 9-Sep-2024 09:13
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The NY Times - Trump avoids sentencing before Election Day

 

today

 


The judge who presided over Donald Trump’s criminal trial in Manhattan postponed Trump’s sentencing until after Election Day, guaranteeing that the American people will vote without knowing whether Trump, the first former president convicted as a felon, will spend time behind bars. ...

 

Despite his legal troubles, Trump has enjoyed remarkably resilient support. 

 

A national poll of likely voters conducted by The New York Times and Siena College found Trump narrowly leading Vice President Kamala Harris, 48 percent to 47 percent.

 

The results are in line with polls in the pivotal battleground states, where Harris is tied with Trump or holds slim leads, according to New York Times polling averages.

 

 

Delaying Trump's sentencing (yet again) was unsurprising - but what I find astonishing is that the polls are still so close, despite sidelining Biden.  😦





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  #3280179 9-Sep-2024 09:27
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From 538 (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/):

 

 

I'm surprised (and depressed) that it's even this close. Harris is holding steady while the orange buffoon (somehow) seems to be very slowly climbing.

 

But for comparison, this is how things looked around this time in 2016:

 

 

Like I said, we all remember what happened next 😢


 
 
 

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  #3280183 9-Sep-2024 09:54
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quickymart:

 

From 538 (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/):

 

I'm surprised (and depressed) that it's even this close. Harris is holding steady while the orange buffoon (somehow) seems to be very slowly climbing.

 

But for comparison, this is how things looked around this time in 2016:

 

Like I said, we all remember what happened next 😢

 

 

To Be honest, unless the gap is more than 5 points, National polls in the US are not really worth anything, 

 

In the popular vote  in 2016  Clinton beat Trump 48.2% to 46.1%  ,

 

its the swing states that are important, more people voting for Harris in California or New York wont change the outcome, but more votes in marginal states will... 


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  #3280187 9-Sep-2024 09:59
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wellygary:

 

its the swing states that are important, more people voting for Harris in California or New York wont change the outcome, but more votes in marginal states will... 

 

 

This is quite true, and I agree with you - more people voting for her in, say, Wisconsin or Pennsylvania probably helps her more.

 

I did find this and the swing states (somehow) look quite close, although I don't think they should be; as in, how can so many people be so wrong as to keep supporting a felon?

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president.html

 

Pity the election isn't today.

 

 

 


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  #3280202 9-Sep-2024 10:37
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My prediction: Trump will act reasonably, for the first 5 minutes. Of course he won't shake her hand, and will look at the moderator, avoiding looking at Harris.

However once she answers the first question, and Trump looks at the proud black woman, the veins in his forehead will start protruding.

RNZ: When is the Harris-Trump presidential debate and how to watch it in New Zealand
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Wednesday 11 September (NZ time) 1pm
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  #3280335 9-Sep-2024 13:02
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quickymart:

 

I did find this and the swing states (somehow) look quite close

 

 

Use Race to the WH, better than 538 for detail (others too like Real Clear Polling too offer other benefits)

Sticking to Race to the WH you will see some useful stuff there, ie Polling Lead Snapshot - Swing States, for the curent avgs which have narrowed, although have Harris back to the lead (within margin of error, although avg) in Penn. 

30 Most Recently Added Polls, yougov have just added their latest swing state polls you can see there which I think are pretty much on the money ie Harris leads but the gap has closed.

as I mentioned the other day with the Congressionall poll (who people want to see in Congress House) on the 538 site, Repubs took a massive drop (given it being avg) of -0.8 between after the 1st Sept putting Democrats at ~+2.7 lead.

If you go back to the Race to the WH site and scroll down to Trend Line - Electoral College, in similar time frame, conversely, Democrats (Harris)/Trump gap has closed around a similar date 1-5th Sept. Harris still holds a lead, but its narrow, a lot of them have become essentially a coin toss ie Trump Arizona +0.5%, Georgia +.02% N.Carolina +0.4%

This is of course just my opinion as a non pollster, when looking at polls its important to take into consideration many things but for birds eye their accuracy/rating, do they lean Red or Blue, the sample size (when I look at the pop vote I look at the morning consult ones as they often ~11500 voters) and what type of voter (RV, LV etc), very important is Party participation %. You can drill down on polls where it says "Full List of Polls"

Edit: It appears Trump and co have stepped up the spending on ads recently, considerably. as of the 25/08/24, graph broken into states at bottom  https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/g-s1-19636/trump-ad-spending-harris

IMO his TV presence is out stripping her with just the one sit down interview. Id be trying to fit in as many of those as I can imo. 

I suggest looking at their campaign ads on YT to form your own opinion, there is a chap who has posted a playlist. Trumps ads imo whilst often out of context or simply Hyperbole, are more targetted at Harris making her look incompetent. Whilst Harris started out well, I find her ads do not spell out who Trump is enough, almost like they are hoping the swing state voters who decide this will just remember. Her ads do a fair job of pointing out her vision, where Trumps are mostly about the opposition rather than what he will do.

One thing I do not think has been said enough, which was mentioned on msnbc for ten mins a couple nights ago is Trumps age and mental fitness, given how hard they went at Biden over his. 

So Harris has more ads, but which tactic is winning? Trump has many more sit down interviews and pressers where Harris is doing lots of Rallies, which is more effective?

I was thinking his sentencing would have an impact, whilst he will be sentenced as neither candidate or president is what I guess the judge thought to be the most fair. But the evidence in the Georgia case is still being presented before election day?

It could come down to the Debate and depending on how it goes will Trump bite at another.......


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  #3280345 9-Sep-2024 13:30
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TeaLeaf:

It could come down to the Debate and depending on how it goes will Trump bite at another.......

 

 

To be honest, US politics is so polarised at the moment, things like debates are significantly less important than they used to be. 

 

I think that it will basically come down to turnout, with each side needing to get as many of their supporters to go and vote....

 

If your candidate is being an idiot, I think the days of you voting for the "other" side are over,

 

You're simply likely to just stay home or only vote in the Congress/local races...


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  #3280346 9-Sep-2024 13:31
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As some wise individual said, the only poll that matters is the one on election day. Until then I will focus my attention on important things like enjoying the spring sunshine outside on my deck.

 

 





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  #3280352 9-Sep-2024 13:54
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wellygary:

 

I think that it will basically come down to turnout, with each side needing to get as many of their supporters to go and vote....

 

If your candidate is being an idiot, I think the days of you voting for the "other" side are over,

 

You're simply likely to just stay home or only vote in the Congress/local races...

 

 

This is so true. although there is a metric for that, there are so many things that fall threw polls. and in a close one like this, voter turn out is everything. That is where I wonder if the Democrats Grass Roots swell might be larger than any of us know. Of course, it could go the other way.

Clinton many say lost because people thought it was a done deal so no need to turn up to vote, I think the Dem messaging this time has been very much about turn up to vote.

I forget the guys name, but he was on MSNBC the other night, he was convinced if the Youth turn out to vote Harris will win. But the oldies. you know for the most part they turn up and vote. which gives Trump an edge.


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  #3280418 9-Sep-2024 15:11
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wellygary:

 

To be honest, US politics is so polarised at the moment, things like debates are significantly less important than they used to be. 

 

 

Eh? Clearly the Biden - Trump debate was as important as it gets.

 

 


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