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Topic # 222962 5-Sep-2017 16:36
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Frighting stuff.

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1859115 5-Sep-2017 16:56
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The ultimate example of human stupidity.





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  Reply # 1859211 5-Sep-2017 19:59
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Yer we know....Tell NK that!!!


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1859212 5-Sep-2017 19:59
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Maybe this is the reason we've never detected another technological civilization out there. They can't get past the urge to blow the piss out of everyone with nukes. yell

 

I'm 47 and the world is probably in the most precarious state I've ever seen.


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  Reply # 1859214 5-Sep-2017 20:16
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It was worse in 1962.

 

 





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  Reply # 1859216 5-Sep-2017 20:18
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The Cuban missile crisis?


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  Reply # 1859219 5-Sep-2017 20:24
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Wiggum:

 

Frighting stuff.

 

 

An out of work actuary that has found a side line in advertising revenue. Interesting though, even if it is on YouTube.


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  Reply # 1859220 5-Sep-2017 20:24
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Yes. There were a couple of others, but those were almost-accidental launches that likely would have triggered global conflagration. Cuba was intentional, and it was a genuinely close call.

 

Interestingly, both cases where an unintended launch almost occurred, were prevented by heroic Soviet officers, who had the right hunch that a launch wasn't called for after all. But it easily could have gone the other way.

 

 





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  Reply # 1859222 5-Sep-2017 20:32
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Rikkitic:

 

Yes. There were a couple of others, but those were almost-accidental launches that likely would have triggered global conflagration. Cuba was intentional, and it was a genuinely close call.

 

Interestingly, both cases where an unintended launch almost occurred, were prevented by heroic Soviet officers, who had the right hunch that a launch wasn't called for after all. But it easily could have gone the other way.

 

 

 

 

It's the silly fly overs by the US and tests by NK that has me worried that these could be misinterpreted and results is a disaster.





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  Reply # 1859229 5-Sep-2017 20:44
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DaveB:

 

Wiggum:

 

Frighting stuff.

 

 

An out of work actuary that has found a side line in advertising revenue. Interesting though, even if it is on YouTube.

 

 

Actually it was the video piece on the following Popular Mechanics article. Try again.

 

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a23306/nuclear-bombs-powerful-today/?src=socialflowFB

 

 


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  Reply # 1859281 5-Sep-2017 22:03
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Bit sad that something so profound and important is merely "political".

 

Stupid humanity.


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  Reply # 1859292 5-Sep-2017 22:29
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Wiggum:

 

DaveB:

 

Wiggum:

 

Frighting stuff.

 

 

An out of work actuary that has found a side line in advertising revenue. Interesting though, even if it is on YouTube.

 

 

Actually it was the video piece on the following Popular Mechanics article. Try again.

 

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a23306/nuclear-bombs-powerful-today/?src=socialflowFB

 

 

 

 

"Powerful" in terms of tonnage of TNT equivalent and "damage potential" based on that tonnage isn't linear.

 

(a 50 MT device won't do 50x the damage of a 1 MT device - something like inverse square will apply, with lots of variables of course).

 

Having very many lower yield devices and the means to deliver them on target is the way to destroy humanity.

 

The US and Russia alone have that capability.  Trump and Putin lead them. Yay.


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  Reply # 1859337 6-Sep-2017 07:15
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When I was a kid a lot of us thought we'd die being nuked. There was a stocked shelter under the college. I think I remember duck and cover drills (not earthquake). Like any of that would help.

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Wiggum:


DaveB:


Wiggum:


Frighting stuff.



An out of work actuary that has found a side line in advertising revenue. Interesting though, even if it is on YouTube.



Actually it was the video piece on the following Popular Mechanics article. Try again.


http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a23306/nuclear-bombs-powerful-today/?src=socialflowFB


 



"Powerful" in terms of tonnage of TNT equivalent and "damage potential" based on that tonnage isn't linear.


(a 50 MT device won't do 50x the damage of a 1 MT device - something like inverse square will apply, with lots of variables of course).


Having very many lower yield devices and the means to deliver them on target is the way to destroy humanity.


The US and Russia alone have that capability.  Trump and Putin lead them. Yay.



The only fact that matters is one will kill millions.




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Rikkitic:

 

Yes. There were a couple of others, but those were almost-accidental launches that likely would have triggered global conflagration. Cuba was intentional, and it was a genuinely close call.

 

Interestingly, both cases where an unintended launch almost occurred, were prevented by heroic Soviet officers, who had the right hunch that a launch wasn't called for after all. But it easily could have gone the other way.

 

 

 

 

Dang, I cant recall where I read it, but I read an article on what started wars. A number were unintended. Like many air crashes, a few ducks lined up and started something bad


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  Reply # 1859570 6-Sep-2017 11:48
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I don't have sources because it was a long time ago and too much trouble to look up, but one incident occurred in the 1980s in Europe. It was when Nato was staging a big military exercise. The Soviets knew that but something still triggered their automated defenses. It was only the action of one officer who knew something was wrong that prevented a retaliatory strike that probably would have started WWIII.

 

The other one was during the Cuban missile crisis when a Soviet sub lost contact with home and nearly nuked the American fleet because it thought the war had started. Again, it was just one Soviet officer who felt something was wrong and prevented the launch.

 

 





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