Breaking News the Herald Once again are on the mark lol

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#12720 2-Apr-2007 07:40

Quote from the heralds effort for today.....lol :-)

But investors believe Telecom gave a strong signal at an investment day in Sydney last month that it was looking to move from its CDMA network to global positioning network.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/story.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10432052

So I wonder how people will make calls on GPS considering its Global Positioning System. Great work Jenny good to see that the story was fact checked.

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#65918 2-Apr-2007 07:44

Someone needs the boot!!

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#65919 2-Apr-2007 07:46

I concur JR

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#65921 2-Apr-2007 07:52

Remember it's not necessarily the author responsible for the error - there are plenty of people who edit the story afterwards as has been pointed out by Juha in the past.

It's an absolutely shocking error..

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#65922 2-Apr-2007 07:54

This Herald article is just as bad

"The change, introduced yesterday and brought about by a Government-driven number portability initiative, will allow, for example, a Vodafone 021 customer to switch to the Telecom 0274 network and keep their 021 number."

I didn't realise it was the Telecom 0274 network..

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#65925 2-Apr-2007 08:04

sbiddle: This Herald article is just as bad

"The change, introduced yesterday and brought about by a Government-driven number portability initiative, will allow, for example, a Vodafone 021 customer to switch to the Telecom 0274 network and keep their 021 number."

I didn't realise it was the Telecom 0274 network..

Gutted I have an 0272 number does that mean im not on telecom lol :-)

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#65926 2-Apr-2007 08:11

But investors believe Telecom gave a strong signal at an investment day in Sydney last month that it was looking to move from its CDMA network to global positioning network.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/story.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10432052

OH now thats just awful with a capital blurgghhhh. Do they just make this stuff up or what? Clearly no telco would have said that - does the reporter just pull cow excretion out of the sky to inject into her story. Never mind the fact checking, how does a non-existant fact actually get made up to start with?

I await my letter:

Dear Valued CDMA Customer,

From 1st April 2008, Telecom will be decommissioning the CDMA network in NZ, in favour of a global positioning network (or 'g.p.n.'). You will nolonger be able to make or recieve calls on our network at all, but at least you will know where you are**.

** Knowing where you are on the new network will require a fully GPS enabled handset.

Regards,
Telecom

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#65928 2-Apr-2007 08:23

ROFL @ Tony

Solves the issues of dropped calls

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#65930 2-Apr-2007 08:41

sbiddle:
Remember it's not necessarily the author responsible for the error - there are plenty of people who edit the story afterwards as has been pointed out by Juha in the past.

It's an absolutely shocking error..

Good point but people don't buy a Lada and pass it off as the latest Holden GTO.
My issue is that even "if" the story is edited how can it be so far far far away from the truth.
The best part of the Herald is "sideswipe" at least when they print something incorrect they print a retraction and clarification.

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#65935 2-Apr-2007 09:31

That looks like an overzealous sub wanting to spell out an acronym - they like doing that at the Herald - rather than the writer. Still bad though; it should've been caught.

Then again, the Herald's owners, APN, are taking a hands-off attitude towards sub-editing: from June this year, that function will be outsourced to an Australian company called PageMasters. An Auckland operation will be set up and seventy subs at the Herald will be made redundant - PageMasters may take some of them on, but there's no word on what the pay will be. This initiative comes from Ireland, and I hear it's not popular with the Herald management.

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#65938 2-Apr-2007 09:54

You guys might want to read the really good comments on my blog post about the MSM problems...

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#65940 2-Apr-2007 09:56

About the 0274... It's incredible how people quote their phone number as 0274 and this seems to be the rule for people to identify Telecom, instead of 027 only. You see this a lot in service vans around the country.

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#65941 2-Apr-2007 09:58

The other thing to bear in mind is that one mistake doesn't necessarily spike the entire story. It can weaken it, especially if it's a bad one like GPS instead of GSM, but you need to read the lot in order to make a judgement on the whole story.

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#65945 2-Apr-2007 10:24

juha: The other thing to bear in mind is that one mistake doesn't necessarily spike the entire story. It can weaken it, especially if it's a bad one like GPS instead of GSM, but you need to read the lot in order to make a judgement on the whole story.

But they didnt even manage to say G.P.S. - they came up with 'global position network'. Joe Bloggs who doesnt know about the technology now has a VERY distorted view about what is happening.

Surely these guys are not so uppity that they cant peer review articles and point out factual errors (im sure SOMEONE on staff would see that thats an error).

MSM rides again.

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#65948 2-Apr-2007 10:34

tonyhughes: Surely these guys are not so uppity that they cant peer review articles

They're uppity enough to not acknowledge emails pointing out errors. Maybe the number of replies needed is beyond their resources.

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#65953 2-Apr-2007 10:50

Stuff are no better today

"Third mobile network is for real" says the story. Thinking I was going to be reading a story about TCL's new UMTS network in Tauranga which is NZ's 3rd mobile network and is a live network (obviously for testing purposes only).. But no, it's a story about NZ Communications (Econet) who still keep talking about building a network.

There are numerous references in the story to "NZ's 3rd mobile network" which is now incorrect since TCL have already rolled out NZ's 3rd mobile network.

It's interesting to see that "Econet paid $13.2 million for a 20-year licence to use radio spectrum in the 1800MHz band in March 2001 and though it has tried to buy 900MHz spectrum from Vodafone, Mr Osborne says NZ Communications will use its existing spectrum for its "core infrastructure". I always thought they wanted to roll out a UMTS network using their cheaply acquired Maori 2100MHz 3G spectrum. Obviously they will now only be rolling out a 1800MHz GSM network, not a UMTS network.

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