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Abeorchard

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#171434 17-Apr-2015 23:41
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I've always been told that returning to NZ can be a shock, no ebay next day delivery, no one pound tickets to Ibiza but returning to rural Canterbury (Mayfield) and download speeds of 0.5mbps has been the toughest thing. 

What I am trying to find out is should we be expecting something more than that given that we are only getting circa 5mbps DSL sync speeds ? 

Modem stats are included below but I suspect that the issue is not the DSL itself but perhaps backhaul capacity? Any opinions? If DSL connection itself is not the issue how much of a difference could changing ISP offer given that I understand that if the backhaul out of the local exchange is the choke point?


 

 

 

 

ADSL_G.dmt

 

 

 

Traffic Type:

 

ATM

 

 

 

Status:

 

Up

 

 

 

Link Power State:

 

L0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Downstream

 

Upstream

 

 

 

Line Coding(Trellis):

 

On

 

On

 

 

 

SNR Margin (0.1 dB):

 

79

 

130

 

 

 

Attenuation (0.1 dB):

 

425

 

210

 

 

 

Output Power (0.1 dBm):

 

199

 

122

 

 

 

Attainable Rate (Kbps):

 

5,560

 

1,108

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Path 0

 

 

 

Path 1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Downstream

 

Upstream

 

Downstream

 

Upstream

 

 

 

Rate (Kbps):

 

5,728

 

896

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

K (number of bytes in DMT frame):

 

180

 

29

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

R (number of check bytes in RS code word):

 

16

 

16

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

S (RS code word size in DMT frame):

 

1.00

 

8.00

 

0.0

 

0.0

 

 

 

D (interleaver depth):

 

64

 

8

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

Delay (msec):

 

16.00

 

16.00

 

0.0

 

0.0

 

 

 

INP (DMT symbol):

 

2.61

 

0.18

 

0.0

 

0.0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Super Frames:

 

17,159,558

 

17,159,558

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

Super Frame Errors:

 

674

 

361

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

RS Words:

 

71,910,954

 

8,997,879

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

RS Correctable Errors:

 

4,255,804

 

21,606

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

RS Uncorrectable Errors:

 

105

 

0

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HEC Errors:

 

4,336

 

340

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

OCD Errors:

 

0

 

0

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

LCD Errors:

 

0

 

0

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

Total Cells:

 

242,869,002

 

0

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

Data Cells:

 

13,535,519

 

0

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

Bit Errors:

 

0

 

0

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total ES:

 

125

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total SES:

 

10

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total UAS:

 

545

 

545

 

 

 


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PeterReader
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  #1286607 17-Apr-2015 23:41
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 



 

If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

 



 

- you have reset your modem and router

 


 

- your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing

 

- you are not being throttled by your ISP due to going over the monthly cap

 


 

- your tests are always done on an ethernet connection to the router - do not use wireless for testing

 


 

- you read this topic and follow the instructions there.

 



 

Make sure you provide information for other users to help you. If you have not already done it, please EDIT your post and add this now:

 



 

- Your ISP and plan

 


 

- Type of connection (ADSL, ADSL2, VDSL)

 


 

- Your modem DSL stats (do not worry about posting Speedtest, we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin)

 


 

- Your general location (or street)

 


 

- If you are rural or urban

 


 

- If you know your connection is to an exchange, cabinet or conklin

 


 

- If your connection is to a ULL or wholesale service

 


 

- If you have done an isolation test as per the link above

 



 

Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

 



 

A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

 



 

I recommend you read these two blog posts:

 



 

- Is your premises phone wiring impacting your broadband performance? (very technical)

 


 

- Are you receiving a substandard ULL ADSL2+ connection from your ISP?




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  #1286635 18-Apr-2015 05:14
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Changing ISP probably won't make much difference. You are in coverage for wireless RBI however, which will most likely give you better speeds.

  #1286645 18-Apr-2015 07:11
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you are connected at 5.7mbps, i would suspect at non peak times you would get close to that (unless its congested all the time), but unfortunately the cabinet you are connected to is probably an older copper fed one and its just getting congested at various times during the day.

you still meet the minimum requirements for broadband in NZ though so not a lot can be done

see the dozens of other threads on this same topic/situation

the unfortunate reality is you can live rurally and expect urban broadband speeds, as there just isnt enough money to go round to upgrade all the cabinets as the ROI is just too low

you are actually right in the coverage for ruralnet wireless
http://www.ultimatebroadband.co.nz/ruralnet-wireless.html



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  #1286648 18-Apr-2015 07:36
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The simple answer is no. There are unfortunately a small % of the population in rural still on an ASAM or a Conklin that will see this type of performance.

There are hundreds of posts on this very topic on here as well as a very detailed blog post by me detailing why this is occurring and what your options are. Changing ISPs will have a difference - if you move to wireless RBI or a wireless provider which is the solution to your problem. Changing DSL providers will make no difference.




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  #1287373 19-Apr-2015 18:44
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Thanks. I had done some research but had been unable to confirm that Mayfield was on these old DSLAMs (Still waiting on a call back from Spark a week later). The Ruralnet Wireless is a great idea. I had missed them as a provider when I'd been looking across alternatives. The frustrating thing seems to be that even though Mayfield has about three different Fibre connections going through the village (EA Networks, Vodafone and Chorus fibre) the exchange hasn't been tagged for an upgrade to the DSL infrastructure.

Will be looking at reports for Ruralnet performance before I look at going on contract to them. 

Thanks for the responses. 

  #1287430 19-Apr-2015 20:39
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im guessing the population just isnt enough to justify having it upgraded at this time, there are a few bigger towns in line for upgrades first

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  #1287443 19-Apr-2015 21:23
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It probably never will be big enough in a lot of small towns without considerable input from the locals, but they want it all subsidized by urban people.

Wait till election time and hope that they use it as a bribe is about the only realistic way. Northland bridges etc.




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  #1287470 19-Apr-2015 23:22
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You got it. Its a small village so unlikely to get upgraded. The criteria for upgrade was population over 500.

Ruralnet looks to basically be the same price to Telecom if you switch over to VOIP but you have to be sure that you are going to get decent service in the case of a power outage for that otherwise you're stuck in the snow without even a phone. (Mobile networks died after a day last time).  I've not tried out Fax over VOIP either. RBI looks like a similar deal. 

I have mucked around with long range wi-fi (km lengths) in Melbourne in the past. I'm tempted to try for the 1.6km to somewhere on the fibre network if I ever get the chance as a hobby project. There are plenty of cheap directional antennas available from China now days.  EA network deals when you are on fibre look great. Might have to get friendly with someone who lives right on the fibre (which was all installed without subsidy). 

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Oops, posted this to the wrong thread.




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