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Topic # 185535 26-Nov-2015 16:51
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Hi all
Rang spark over two months ago to sign up for 100/20 UFB. No problem they said. Chorus came over two weeks later and couldn't get the cable through the conduit, a couple of elbows apparently. Whole suburb is only 20yrs old and plenty of room in the conduit that I could see. Any-who chorus said they have to do a bit of digging and will be back. Two months later and several calls to spark (one hour waits on the phone or a call back). Really Spark? one hour to talk to somebody??? Still no more info than they will contact chorus and find out what the hold up is. To date I still don't know what the hold up is. Am on hold right now, was told over an hour wait and no option for a call back this time!
Have been with spark for 15+ yrs and now thinking if I should just go with someone else as the service seems to have dropped right off.

Thanks for reading my rant!

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  Reply # 1435374 26-Nov-2015 16:51
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  Reply # 1435398 26-Nov-2015 17:15
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changing providers wont change anything as the issue is with chours as they provide the fibre network, spark just provide you internet over chorus' network.

your rant should be dirrected at chorus not spark

maybe one of the nice spark reps on here will be able to find out what the holdup is and let you know

and by the way, this a way way to common place these days, just look at the number of threads on there about issues with getting fibre, with 90+% having chours as the issue.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1435408 26-Nov-2015 17:34
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Jase2985: changing providers wont change anything as the issue is with chours as they provide the fibre network, spark just provide you internet over chorus' network.

your rant should be dirrected at chorus not spark

maybe one of the nice spark reps on here will be able to find out what the holdup is and let you know

and by the way, this a way way to common place these days, just look at the number of threads on there about issues with getting fibre, with 90+% having chours as the issue.


AGREED! If the OP can flick me his/her account number and address in a PM I will look into it tomorrow morning.




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  Reply # 1435413 26-Nov-2015 18:07
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Do not change ISP, as (amongst other things) you will go to the back of the queue with a new ISP.

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  Reply # 1435415 26-Nov-2015 18:11
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@stone2 two months nothing to worry about, Many people have waited much much longer and as already advised changing request to another ISP will put you at the back of the queue and the process will start all over again

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  Reply # 1435899 27-Nov-2015 11:06
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I have been waiting since September with the exact same issue that they couldn't get the wires through the conduit. I get no updates from Spark. I get no help from Chorus. Downers have no clue. I actually thought about cancelling as well, but realize that any other ISP will use Chorus and Downers. I have told Spark that I would consider cancelling as soon as my service is installed because of the lack of customer service.

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  Reply # 1435918 27-Nov-2015 11:14
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but shouldnt the end customer have zero communication with chorus, and all that been handled via the ISP?

Personally it sounds like Spark should be on chorus' back about the install but spark are mucking around and making the end customer constantly call up and wait on hold.  So if one did change ISPs, the new ISP would then get onto chorus and get them to do the install, that new ISP might be more proactive about this and get the install sorted quicker.

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  Reply # 1435945 27-Nov-2015 11:43
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reven: but shouldnt the end customer have zero communication with chorus, and all that been handled via the ISP?

Personally it sounds like Spark should be on chorus' back about the install but spark are mucking around and making the end customer constantly call up and wait on hold.  So if one did change ISPs, the new ISP would then get onto chorus and get them to do the install, that new ISP might be more proactive about this and get the install sorted quicker.


No. Once chorus takes over the initial process, then scheduling of scope, install etc should be managed directly between customer and chorus. Makes no sense to involve the ISP as the middle man passing info back and forth (obviously they should be kept informed though)


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  Reply # 1435950 27-Nov-2015 11:52
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reven: but shouldnt the end customer have zero communication with chorus, and all that been handled via the ISP?

Personally it sounds like Spark should be on chorus' back about the install but spark are mucking around and making the end customer constantly call up and wait on hold.  So if one did change ISPs, the new ISP would then get onto chorus and get them to do the install, that new ISP might be more proactive about this and get the install sorted quicker.


When we got Fibre installed I remember calling Snap about 6 weeks into the order to query the status and why I hadn't heard anything yet, their response was simple and straight to the point: we are waiting on the LFC, we cannot hurry them up, it will take as long as it takes, you will be contacted when the LFC are ready to install.

I appreciated their honesty and waited patiently knowing that the order was in the system and that Snap were playing the waiting game as I was. A couple of weeks later the call came with an install date from the LFC and an email from Snap confirming.

All ISP's are in the same boat, they follow the established process with the LFC's and cop flack from the customer for something that is largely out of their direct control. As others have said, 2 months is nothing compared to the average experience reported on here.

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  Reply # 1435951 27-Nov-2015 11:53
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NonprayingMantis:
reven: but shouldnt the end customer have zero communication with chorus, and all that been handled via the ISP?

Personally it sounds like Spark should be on chorus' back about the install but spark are mucking around and making the end customer constantly call up and wait on hold.  So if one did change ISPs, the new ISP would then get onto chorus and get them to do the install, that new ISP might be more proactive about this and get the install sorted quicker.


No. Once chorus takes over the initial process, then scheduling of scope, install etc should be managed directly between customer and chorus. Makes no sense to involve the ISP as the middle man passing info back and forth (obviously they should be kept informed though)



oh ok then, I was always under the impression customer is ISPs customer, and ISP is chorus customer similar to power companies (e.g. customer -> mercury -> vector).

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  Reply # 1435955 27-Nov-2015 11:57
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reven:
NonprayingMantis:
reven: but shouldnt the end customer have zero communication with chorus, and all that been handled via the ISP?

Personally it sounds like Spark should be on chorus' back about the install but spark are mucking around and making the end customer constantly call up and wait on hold.  So if one did change ISPs, the new ISP would then get onto chorus and get them to do the install, that new ISP might be more proactive about this and get the install sorted quicker.


No. Once chorus takes over the initial process, then scheduling of scope, install etc should be managed directly between customer and chorus. Makes no sense to involve the ISP as the middle man passing info back and forth (obviously they should be kept informed though)



oh ok then, I was always under the impression customer is ISPs customer, and ISP is chorus customer similar to power companies (e.g. customer -> mercury -> vector).


Yeah, but Think of it like getting a package from mighty ape.

You buy from mighty ape. You are a mighty ape customer. When mighty ape ship a apackage to you they pass you over to the courier company and give you the ticket number. If you want to follow up on delivery timing, you go to the courier company website, put the ticket number in there, and see what's going on. It adds complexity to have to go via mighty ape at that point, since all they can do is contact the courier company. Far better to work directly with mighty ape.

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  Reply # 1435967 27-Nov-2015 12:26
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Beat this: my whole apartment complex has fibre connected into it, but the property manager is now refusing any new connections by Chorus owing to two previous installations where the contractors (from UCG - Universal Communications) caused damage to ceiling tiles in the corridors and didn't clean up after themselves.

I found this out AFTER moving into the complex, so not very happy.



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  Reply # 1435998 27-Nov-2015 13:06
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RogerMellie: Beat this: my whole apartment complex has fibre connected into it, but the property manager is now refusing any new connections by Chorus owing to two previous installations where the contractors (from UCG - Universal Communications) caused damage to ceiling tiles in the corridors and didn't clean up after themselves.

I found this out AFTER moving into the complex, so not very happy.




Well, you can still get copper broadband right? Spare a thought for people in the same situation but in a fibre only area.

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