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#121950 7-Apr-2008 23:31

Bletch:
I'm on 58.28 (static IP), LA is OK, but can someone do a Sydney test? My Australia results are terrible.
I'm getting ~700kbits/sec to Sydney (terrible) but very fast to everywhere else in Australia, so my guess is the Sydney speedtest server is screwed. Try testing to Canberra instead.

The Xtra connection here disagrees with you:

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#121951 7-Apr-2008 23:36

Interesting. Either that means that Xnet has a crap link to Sydney but good everywhere else (unlikely) or the server was under heavy load when I tested (more likely).

What kind of connection are you on there? ADSL1 doesn't go that fast, and I didn't think Telecom offered any ADSL2 plans yet...

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#121952 7-Apr-2008 23:41

Here's mine to Sydney:

The result is pretty poor when this is my normal speed:

Then I thought, why not try my connection to Yekaterinburg (rather than the regular LA test):

Which wasn't really impressive either.

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#121954 8-Apr-2008 00:06

Just think how the yekaterinburgians feel. It would be no picnic for them either

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#121985 8-Apr-2008 07:17

Bletch:
I'm on 58.28 (static IP), LA is OK, but can someone do a Sydney test? My Australia results are terrible.
I'm getting ~700kbits/sec to Sydney (terrible) but very fast to everywhere else in Australia, so my guess is the Sydney speedtest server is screwed. Try testing to Canberra instead.

I know Cokemaster posted a Xtra speedtest but the reality is: people keep looking for the worst servers to test? If Sydney is "screwed" as you say, then could it be used to prove a problem? Who guarantees which server is working ok or not? Who knows if the server in LAX is not "screwed" as well?

All those tests are not conclusive. Between your PC and the test server there are a variery of routers, switches, firewalls, filters, and because of the Internet topology if one is not working, the packets take another route.

Those speedtest sho a nice straight line during the tests, but remember it may not be like that in reality.

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#121987 8-Apr-2008 07:19

Bletch:
What kind of connection are you on there? ADSL1 doesn't go that fast, and I didn't think Telecom offered any ADSL2 plans yet...

Its a DSL2+ connection. My line got upgraded a while ago when the exchange moved over?

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#122001 8-Apr-2008 07:53

freitasm:
Bletch:
I'm on 58.28 (static IP), LA is OK, but can someone do a Sydney test? My Australia results are terrible.
I'm getting ~700kbits/sec to Sydney (terrible) but very fast to everywhere else in Australia, so my guess is the Sydney speedtest server is screwed. Try testing to Canberra instead.

I know Cokemaster posted a Xtra speedtest but the reality is: people keep looking for the worst servers to test? If Sydney is "screwed" as you say, then could it be used to prove a problem? Who guarantees which server is working ok or not? Who knows if the server in LAX is not "screwed" as well?

All those tests are not conclusive. Between your PC and the test server there are a variery of routers, switches, firewalls, filters, and because of the Internet topology if one is not working, the packets take another route.

Those speedtest sho a nice straight line during the tests, but remember it may not be like that in reality.

True but they are pretty conclusive after so many days of running and also experiencing similar real world speeds with other downloads, including youtube.

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#122008 8-Apr-2008 08:49

All those tests are not conclusive. Between your PC and the test server there are a variery of routers, switches, firewalls, filters, and because of the Internet topology if one is not working, the packets take another route.

I think different users from around the country checking line speeds at different times of the day for multiple days would give an indication if there is a problem. And as stated above when you can't even stream a low quality youtube clip you know that you have a slow international connection. Streaming from New Zealand however runs fine which would seem to strengthen this conclusion.

As wXc have stated they will not comment on this issue any further so their customers are left to speculate and draw their own conclusions.

Of course calling the help desk will help but I haven't got time at the moment to wait but as soon as I have done so I will post the reply.

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#122050 8-Apr-2008 11:14

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4468328a26513.html

Problem Solved ????

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#122051 8-Apr-2008 11:19

dilligaf: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4468328a26513.html

Problem Solved ????

In the short term, no. In the medium or longer term, perhaps - if it gets the required go-aheads, and IF the pricing is sensible. However it does finally introduce competition, or at least the threat of competition, which should reduce the transit prices. The questions are:

- How much will it reduce transit (or IRU) costs by, and will it be enough for the cable to be viable? Remember that it's only at the discussion stage and will ultimately need ministerial approval.
- Is anyone going to want to go via a much longer haul path to get to the US? It might improve Asian connectivity though.
- Which transit providers in NZ (TNZ, TCL, ANC, VzB, Sprint) are likely to pick capacity up on this cable?
- Given the multi-segment spans necessary, is it really going to be that cheap?

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#122063 8-Apr-2008 11:56

PenultimateHop:
dilligaf: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4468328a26513.html

Problem Solved ????

In the short term, no. In the medium or longer term, perhaps - if it gets the required go-aheads, and IF the pricing is sensible. However it does finally introduce competition, or at least the threat of competition, which should reduce the transit prices. The questions are:

- How much will it reduce transit (or IRU) costs by, and will it be enough for the cable to be viable? Remember that it's only at the discussion stage and will ultimately need ministerial approval.
- Is anyone going to want to go via a much longer haul path to get to the US? It might improve Asian connectivity though.
- Which transit providers in NZ (TNZ, TCL, ANC, VzB, Sprint) are likely to pick capacity up on this cable?
- Given the multi-segment spans necessary, is it really going to be that cheap?

Answers to your questions,
Reduce costs.....................NO
Ministerial Approval.............yes
Go via longer path...............Shortest route not always the fastest
Pick up Connectivity.............TNZ
Is it realy going to be cheap....NO

Only my opinion though, best to take up fishing full time whilst we await the outcome!

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#122064 8-Apr-2008 11:58

dilligaf:
PenultimateHop:
dilligaf: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4468328a26513.html

Problem Solved ????

In the short term, no. In the medium or longer term, perhaps - if it gets the required go-aheads, and IF the pricing is sensible. However it does finally introduce competition, or at least the threat of competition, which should reduce the transit prices. The questions are:

- How much will it reduce transit (or IRU) costs by, and will it be enough for the cable to be viable? Remember that it's only at the discussion stage and will ultimately need ministerial approval.
- Is anyone going to want to go via a much longer haul path to get to the US? It might improve Asian connectivity though.
- Which transit providers in NZ (TNZ, TCL, ANC, VzB, Sprint) are likely to pick capacity up on this cable?
- Given the multi-segment spans necessary, is it really going to be that cheap?

Answers to your questions,
Reduce costs.....................NO
Ministerial Approval.............yes
Go via longer path...............Shortest route not always the fastest
Pick up Connectivity.............TNZ
Is it realy going to be cheap....NO
Only my opinion though, best to take up fishing full time whilst we await the outcome!

So for someone that doesn't really understand what all this is at all, can yuo explain it in lamens terms? What does this mean for the consumer?

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#122067 8-Apr-2008 12:04

Khann:
So for someone that doesn't really understand what all this is at all, can yuo explain it in lamens terms? What does this mean for the consumer?

If this cable does get the go ahead and is built, there is now choice of fibre routes for international transit providers (like Telecom, TelstraClear, PacNet (formerly known as Asia Netcom), Verizon Business, etc) to buy services on. Southern Cross is currently the only viable international transport network out of New Zealand - and it's 50% owned by Telecom NZ.

Competition means that in theory the price of IRUs drops as the other telcos can now negotiate pricing between SX and PIPE/Kordia - which IN THEORY (big assumption!) that price of international bandwidth drops. This saving MAY be passed on to consumers, or ISPs may choose to take this as an additional profit margin, or they may use the saving to buy more bandwidth and increase the performance of services. This of course would be up to the individual ISP's business decisions.

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#122157 8-Apr-2008 17:18

Hi Guys, new here and xnet customer for last 2 months. I am having pick international problem currently and it only happens after 6 pm or so.

anyways, i was looking at most of these posts with their speed test from speedtest.net and screenshots,, you guys may not realise it, but when your doing a speed test with speedtest.net, dont actually be full and select the one that says its reccomended and with yellow pyramid.. actually worldxchange is one of the speedtest.net speed test server partner. so when you do the test, your actually pinging or connecting to worldxchange (xnet) it self and you get the best result possible thou :) you dont want this. you want to do test with other blue pyramid in other countries and post you test here.

the reason i say this i check at the buttom of test result posted here, it says WorldXchange... this does not mean your ISP is worldexchange and they detect you.. it means worldxchange was the speed test server :)

Just a thought for you all with all those screenshots..

let me know if i am wrong here.

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#122158 8-Apr-2008 17:23

johndou: let me know if i am wrong here.

You are partially wrong. Yes, Xnet does (I think) run the wellington speedtest server, but none of the others. You will notice that it detects your ISP as Xnet no matter which server you test from, so sadly that blows your theory completely out of the water.

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