Vodafone unveils Ultra Fast Broadband TV service

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#907974 4-Oct-2013 16:03

$8 for a ppv movie seems a little steep.

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#907978 4-Oct-2013 16:16

farcus: $8 for a ppv movie seems a little steep.

$7.95 actually. On par with everywhere else (Sky, iTunes)

Served out of Lower Hutt too.. Not Upper Hutt like said in Bill's article.

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#907981 4-Oct-2013 16:23

BlueShift:
NonprayingMantis:

less compression means the quality will be higher. The opposite of what you think.

It will still be SD of course, but not as crummy as current Sky SD, which is very crummy

VF say "Unlike satellite pay TV, all Vodafone TV channels will be high definition. "

bit of confusion as the nbr article says:

"Vodafone stresses there are no capacity restraints with fibre. That Sky TV channels offered over satellite in HD will be HD on Vodafone's set-top box. But some standard definition channels will be less compressed than they are on Sky TV."

Could be either way of course, but I think the NBR is more likely to be right here, since all the content is coming from Sky, why will it suddenly be in HD on VF when Sky only buys the SD content?

Also, your quote is from the Bill Bennet article, which also has the prices wrong for the UFB plans:

"Vodafone’s prices for UFB broadband are on a par with other service providers. The basic plan offers 80 GB of data through a 30 Mbps pipe for $65 a month. At the top of the scale 250 GB of data through a 100 Mbps pipe costs $119 a month. These prices include a modem and installation. Some Vodafone mobile account customers will get a $30 discount on these prices. Adding a home phone line and local calls costs an extra $30 a month."

The $65 price point already includes the $30 discount for postpaid mobile

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#907983 4-Oct-2013 16:24

ZollyMonsta:
farcus: $8 for a ppv movie seems a little steep.

$7.95 actually. On par with everywhere else (Sky, iTunes)

Served out of Lower Hutt too.. Not Upper Hutt like said in Bill's article.

$6.99 on quickflix and ezyflix, albeit not in HD (HD on ezyflix is $7.99)

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#907986 4-Oct-2013 16:28

Heavens forbid they miss out on revenue by actually offering something cheaper.

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#908010 4-Oct-2013 17:06

150 channels plus 34 ppv movies - all "HD".
How much bandwidth does this add up to?

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#908017 4-Oct-2013 17:17

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dolsen: Some sky SD channels could have less compression than Sky satellite versions (so they have their own source and are doing their own encoding of the signal).

Really???!!!
So you'll be paying to watch what will basically look like a blurry mess on screen, since the SD channels on the satellite are terrible already, anything less must be totally unwatchable.

Less compression = better quality

Haha yea just re-read that and I got it round the wrong way!

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#908029 4-Oct-2013 18:01

BlueShift:
NonprayingMantis:

less compression means the quality will be higher. The opposite of what you think.

It will still be SD of course, but not as crummy as current Sky SD, which is very crummy

VF say "Unlike satellite pay TV, all Vodafone TV channels will be high definition. "

Is Food TV in the list of channels? I will literally move house to a UFB Zone :)

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#908037 4-Oct-2013 18:23

dolsen: 150 channels plus 34 ppv movies - all "HD".
How much bandwidth does this add up to?

Around 10Mbps tops.

Bandwidth isn't an issue as multicast IPTV to a single device is an extremely efficient way to deliver content. It's far, far more efficient that regular web based IPTV services.

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#908040 4-Oct-2013 18:25

I just see the irony of the whole product being the fact the product was designed to use the cable network as backhaul for IPTV/VOD but that never worked. We now have UFB multicast delivering a product that's still not available on cable!

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#908101 4-Oct-2013 19:48

ZollyMonsta:
farcus: $8 for a ppv movie seems a little steep.

$7.95 actually. On par with everywhere else (Sky, iTunes)

then those other places are also over priced (IMO).

Amazon Instant Video is approx $4.50 - $5.00 NZD for HD new releases for a 48 hour rental.

Of course you have to jump through hoops to get it though.

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#908145 4-Oct-2013 21:26

Of course you have to jump through hoops to get it though.

So there's your answer then.

SD ones are $6.95 and HD ones are $7.95. Same as Sky, same as iTunes. 24 hour rental.

The studios pretty much set these prices in this part of the world.

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#908178 4-Oct-2013 22:18

sbiddle:
dolsen: 150 channels plus 34 ppv movies - all "HD".
How much bandwidth does this add up to?

Around 10Mbps tops.

Bandwidth isn't an issue as multicast IPTV to a single device is an extremely efficient way to deliver content. It's far, far more efficient that regular web based IPTV services.

Do you have some more detail available? 10Mb/s so about 1MB/s for 150 channels. Sure, it's multicast so 1 steam per everyone vs 1 steam per customer but it still seems weird. Dvbt recordings on tv3 are about 5800MB for 2 hours so about .8MB/S for 1 1080 channel. Granted the wouldn't all be 1080 channels, but still.

It obviously works or they would not be releasing it, just how much do they take off the available bandwidth to do so.

Want to write a lot more about fibre / 24 person split with no contention if all people get 50/100 service and what's left over but my phone is dying.

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#908325 5-Oct-2013 09:28

sbiddle:
dolsen: 150 channels plus 34 ppv movies - all "HD".
How much bandwidth does this add up to?

Around 10Mbps tops.

Bandwidth isn't an issue as multicast IPTV to a single device is an extremely efficient way to deliver content. It's far, far more efficient that regular web based IPTV services.

I believe its provisioned for 100/50/72 (IP TV throughput)

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#908482 5-Oct-2013 15:14

does the set top box plug into a different port on the ONT or do you just connect it up to your router with all your other computers and such?

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