Is NZ Casual Data Rate A Rort?

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#504735 10-Aug-2011 23:31

MattEast: Our casual rate is currently one of the best available. It only gets better on account or with one of our prepay bundles, welcome to pretty much the only industry that has consistently dropped prices over the last five years. You get more [faster] for less.

Out of interest, what is your ideal casual data rate?

Thanks for asking, I like that Matt.

No rocket science here, and as you asked, least is best.

Moving from ideally to more realistically (I am not going to respond to all your points nor analyse this is robust detail as I have a business to run too, however) I think anything in the range of 20 to 50c per MB would stand you in good stead with the NZ marketplace - and of course the competition you provide yourself across the ditch.

Would that be so unreasonable?

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#504740 10-Aug-2011 23:46

Not a all, this is all feedback I like taking to the marketing team, so thank you for that. I like your price points, hopefully so do they.

Matt East

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Ultimate Geek

#504792 11-Aug-2011 08:22

MattEast: Not a all, this is all feedback I like taking to the marketing team, so thank you for that. I like your price points, hopefully so do they.

Matt, that would seem a more appropriate response, thank you.

When can we expect to hear the outcome of such deliberation?

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#504843 11-Aug-2011 09:58

Hinko Vodafone is not telling you how to run your business at all. Vodafone has in place other options for you like prepay data bundles that offer better value over casual data rates

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Ultimate Geek

#504855 11-Aug-2011 10:13

johnr: Hinko Vodafone is not telling you how to run your business at all. Vodafone has in place other options for you like prepay data bundles that offer better value over casual data rates

and from another thread:

johnr: Hinko if you don't like the $1 per day then add a data bundle this offers better value.

With all due respect John, might I be allowed the prerogative of deciding what represents best value to me?

I do not agree with you.

johnr: Matt advised in that thread he was passing on feedback only.

Are you saying the Vodafone Team are not going to consider the feedback?

johnr

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#504871 11-Aug-2011 10:38

feedback is feedback does not mean anything is going to change. All feedback is looked at.

You can give me feedback you don't like the colour of my car. Does this mean I have to race out and get my car painted?

I have no more to add to your thread sorry as we will just go around in circles

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#504882 11-Aug-2011 11:01

Hinko: http://www.vodafone.co.nz/roaming/data-roaming.jsp says 50c a MB in Australia for NZers.

In NZ after 10MB the casual rate is (or was) 100c per MB.

Why is it double the cost in the home country?

Seems evidence of a rort to me - or have I missed something here?

A $6 pack with 50MB works out at 12c per MB. If Vodafone want to set the casual rate fairly high and instead push packs that's their business.

If you really want to stick to the casual rate, 2 degrees have a lower casual rate at 50c per MB.

However... basic maths shows that if you use more than 6MB per month on Telecom or Vodafone or 12MB per month on 2degrees you're far better off with a $6 pack with 50MB than paying the casual rate.

Don't see the problem here you have alternative options, choice and a bit of competition.

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Ultimate Geek

#504883 11-Aug-2011 11:04

johnr: feedback is feedback does not mean anything is going to change. All feedback is looked at.

Great, thank you.

You can give me feedback you don't like the colour of my car. Does this mean I have to race out and get my car painted?

No. Hearing the results of your consideration might still be appropriate.

MattEast: Not a all, this is all feedback I like taking to the marketing team, so thank you for that. I like your price points, hopefully so do they.

Implies to me that some active consideration of some valid points that have merit will be considered. Ordinarily a decision will result. I'd like to hear that decision, even if it is that Vodafone will not change anything, that remains a decision.

johnr: I have no more to add to your thread

I would appreciate that, unless you have some news to report on a change of the plans.

Hinko

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Ultimate Geek

#509289 20-Aug-2011 09:01

MattEast: Not a all, this is all feedback I like taking to the marketing team, so thank you for that. I like your price points, hopefully so do they.

I wonder what the outcome of consideration of the feedback was? Has it been considered yet?

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#509293 20-Aug-2011 09:17

Hinko:
MattEast: Not a all, this is all feedback I like taking to the marketing team, so thank you for that. I like your price points, hopefully so do they.

I wonder what the outcome of consideration of the feedback was?? Has it been considered yet?

As advised it was feedback only nothing else has changed

As advised also if you want more data purchase a addon bundle

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#509320 20-Aug-2011 12:37

Commom sense agrees with the Vodafone responses. You would expect high Gb plans to be cheapest per Gb, and you would expect the lowest plans to be the most expensive. This is the case. The mobile telcos all offer prepay and postpay plans in between, so I really don't see the issue.

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#509324 20-Aug-2011 12:48

You would expect high Gb plans to be cheapest per Gb, and you would expect the lowest plans to be the most expensive.

I agree you would.

This is the case.

No its not the case.

$1.00 buys <= 10MB
$2.00 buys <= 11MB
$11.00 buys <= 20MB

The 11MB use is significantly more expensive and less economic despite it being more data use.

20MB use is only 100% more data and costs 1100% more!!!!

What would rortaceous look like?

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#509325 20-Aug-2011 12:59

Hinko:
You would expect high Gb plans to be cheapest per Gb, and you would expect the lowest plans to be the most expensive.

I agree you would.

This is the case.

No its not the case.

$1.00 buys $2.00 buys $11.00 buys
The 11MB use is significantly more expensive and less economic despite it being more data use.

20MB use is only 100% more data and costs 1100% more!!!!

What would rortaceous look like?

If you intend to be a regular user over 10Mb a day you would clearly seek a more suitable alternative.

In life if you buy a higher volume you get a better price, you are seeming to want a low volume and a high volume price. You run your own business? I hope you price your products or services on the basis you are asking here.

Hinko

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#509343 20-Aug-2011 13:32

tdgeek:
Hinko:
You would expect high Gb plans to be cheapest per Gb, and you would expect the lowest plans to be the most expensive.

I agree you would.

This is the case.

No its not the case.

$1.00 buys $2.00 buys $11.00 buys
The 11MB use is significantly more expensive and less economic despite it being more data use.

20MB use is only 100% more data and costs 1100% more!!!!

What would rortaceous look like?

If you intend to be a regular user over 10Mb a day you would clearly seek a more suitable alternative.

It is a casual rate plan for casual use. If you wanted casusal data you'd use a casual plan! That doesn;t justify rortaceous charging.

In life if you buy a higher volume you get a better price, you are seeming to want a low volume and a high volume price.

Look at the numbers, more is not less! More is more, a LOT MORE!

A 1100% increase is not fair and reasonable. Come on Vodafone. Get reasonable.

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#509364 20-Aug-2011 14:51

End of discussion for me.

I agree with the "get reasonable" comment though....

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