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#1795548 6-Jun-2017 18:00

freitasm:

I think we all knew this was going to happen - and now ComCom is investigating Vodafone NZ for using "fibre" in the product naming.

oh damn, didnt see that. this is great.

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#1795561 6-Jun-2017 18:16

I complained to ComCom about this. glad action is being taken.

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#1795562 6-Jun-2017 18:16

I complained to ComCom about this. glad action is being taken.

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#1795573 6-Jun-2017 18:32

What can the Comcom do here? Make them change the branding name to CableX or CoaxX ?

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#1795580 6-Jun-2017 18:57

DjShadow:

What can the Comcom do here? Make them change the branding name to CableX or CoaxX ?

I pick hFIBREc

I'd better register the domain and trademark now.

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#1795589 6-Jun-2017 20:15

kharris:

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My current speed on FibreX 200/20, the congestion is real :-(

I'm also on FibreX 200/20 and I consistently get 190-203/@20 speedtest results. I am on a node in Mirimar though so maybe that is not congested.

A little scared now that I've jinxed myself now :)

I'm on node WKH3 in Island Bay (the land of Krapi Kable).

Speedtests mean very little - I regularly get near 200/20Mbps on OOKLA (VF Wellington server), but real-world download speeds are only a fraction of that.

My typical downstream speed (via Ethernet) is 20-25 Mbps, with a maximum of 80 Mbps on a really good day (about once a month.)

I have never hit 100Mbps, let alone 200Mbps.

Executive Summary: speed tests have very little to do with real-world performance.

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#1795593 6-Jun-2017 20:26

What are you talking about? The speed test simulates a download from the server you pick.

Pick an international server vs nz server and you will get your real speeds.

So my speeds have slowed to a crawl and now my net has gone down completely, I think it's more an issue with the node I'm connected to.

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#1795596 6-Jun-2017 20:30

I cannot see an issue in the brand name. HFC = Hybrid Fibre-Coax.

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#1795629 6-Jun-2017 22:06

quickymart: Makes me sad to see all this happen to cable. Back in the "good old days" cable was the bees knees.

That was with data caps though, and in 2011 (?) when they experimented with no data cap weekends speeds went to crap as well.

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#1795676 7-Jun-2017 01:42

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kharris:

Distorter:

My current speed on FibreX 200/20, the congestion is real :-(

I'm also on FibreX 200/20 and I consistently get 190-203/@20 speedtest results. I am on a node in Mirimar though so maybe that is not congested.

A little scared now that I've jinxed myself now :)

I'm on node WKH3 in Island Bay (the land of Krapi Kable).

Speedtests mean very little - I regularly get near 200/20Mbps on OOKLA (VF Wellington server), but real-world download speeds are only a fraction of that.

My typical downstream speed (via Ethernet) is 20-25 Mbps, with a maximum of 80 Mbps on a really good day (about once a month.)

I have never hit 100Mbps, let alone 200Mbps.

Executive Summary: speed tests have very little to do with real-world performance.

I also get the same speed to fast.com aka netflix. Are you saying all speed tests to all servers are rubbish. If that's the case then why do we have them?
Are you saying that VF are traffic shaping to give priorty to Speedtest.net and fast.com to any server?

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#1795679 7-Jun-2017 04:58

given fast.com is served from a local CDN in NZ that doesnt really say much

the vodafone speedtest server is within vodafones network, where they have complete control over where the data goes and how fast it can get there. if you test to any other server it introduces other variable, like the speed of handovers etc so yes they can "shape" it as you put it to some extent.

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#1795684 7-Jun-2017 08:00

kharris:
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Executive Summary: speed tests have very little to do with real-world performance.

I also get the same speed to fast.com aka netflix. Are you saying all speed tests to all servers are rubbish. If that's the case then why do we have them?
Are you saying that VF are traffic shaping to give priorty to Speedtest.net and fast.com to any server?

See Jase2985's reply (above).

Speedtests are - at least in part - a sales tool. Users are urged to use their ISP's own local speed test server, so as to get a "good" result.

Most ISPs - including VF - give priority to speed test traffic. Normal "real world" traffic does not get priority, and is therefore significantly slower.

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#1795899 7-Jun-2017 12:03

Jase2985:

given fast.com is served from a local CDN in NZ that doesnt really say much

Huh? I don't understand that comment. does that not mean that would give a relatively accurate test of the download speed being provided by the ISP.

International tests are dependent on international bandwidth and other variables.

the vodafone speedtest server is within vodafones network, where they have complete control over where the data goes and how fast it can get there. if you test to any other server it introduces other variable, like the speed of handovers etc so yes they can "shape" it as you put it to some extent.

If I test to ACS data and/or two degrees Christchurch (I'm in Wellington) then I still get good results. The latency to Chch is higher as expected.

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#1795900 7-Jun-2017 12:07

Jase2985:

given fast.com is served from a local CDN in NZ that doesnt really say much

the vodafone speedtest server is within vodafones network, where they have complete control over where the data goes and how fast it can get there. if you test to any other server it introduces other variable, like the speed of handovers etc so yes they can "shape" it as you put it to some extent.

Yup!

They are pretty much selling us a Gigabit Intranet connection and a standard VDSL Internet connection.

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#1796003 7-Jun-2017 15:17

yitz:
quickymart: Makes me sad to see all this happen to cable. Back in the "good old days" cable was the bees knees.
That was with data caps though, and in 2011 (?) when they experimented with no data cap weekends speeds went to crap as well.

I'm thinking back further than that - the early-mid 2000's. Anything since the merger in 2012 (IMO) is not good.

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