[WXC/VFX] 100% Latency increase since planned ADSL outage last night.

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Geek

#493968 16-Jul-2011 12:28

something has changed for the better :

Tracing route to www.geekzone.co.nz [202.175.128.164]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1     5 ms    2     1 ms     1 ms    3     3 ms     1 ms     1 ms RTA1320.home [192.168.0.1]
4    41 ms    40 ms    40 ms akl-ip21-xdsl-gw.wxnz.net [182.154.0.21]
5    40 ms    40 ms    40 ms 60.234.64.174
6    41 ms    41 ms    40 ms 60.234.64.173
7    40 ms    40 ms    40 ms xe-1-1-0-235.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.170
]
8    42 ms    42 ms    42 ms 60.234.20.46
9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
10    43 ms    42 ms    42 ms www.geekzone.co.nz [202.175.128.164]

still seeing 65ms to www.google.co.nz

AllenG

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Ultimate Geek

#493988 16-Jul-2011 13:15

Don't count your chickens too soon!

Mines steady at 46ms. See what it does tonight. Heres hoping.

Allen.

AllenG

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Ultimate Geek

#494148 16-Jul-2011 21:51

Seems better tonight (Saturday) Perhaps everone is out or watching the Rugby?. A little jitter, but average is around 47ms. A few missed pings though.

83 minutes starting 17:10

3500 x 5 second pings aprox 17:10 to 22:00
8

Regards Allen

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#494167 16-Jul-2011 23:11

PenultimateHop:
Ragnor:
Most ISP's are moving customers to EUBA if it's available from the exchange/cabinet they are connected to.

Really? I thought most ISPs were whining that EUBA required an architecture change on their side, and sometimes a BRAS/LNS change...

I believe there are two EUBA versions, one pure Ethernet end to end and the other sill using PPPoA for the most part.

But yes, many ISP have already migrated their users and the ones which haven't are most certainly going to in the very near future.

AllenG

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Ultimate Geek

#494344 17-Jul-2011 18:29

My internet was down at some stage this afternoon. VOIP and internet were off when I got home at 17:30 or so. Reconnected again soon after this.

Starting to have increased latency again tonight.

25 minutes between 18:00 & 18:25.
5 second pings. Blue are pings, red is average.

Regards Allen.

AllenG

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Ultimate Geek

#494356 17-Jul-2011 19:24

1 hour 20 from 18:00 to 19:20.

5 second pings. Red drops to zero are no replies.
I have only observed this happening in evenings. Looks to me like peak time congestion somewhere in the route.

Regards Allen.

LiQuidAce

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Master Geek

#494396 17-Jul-2011 21:38

Mine have gone to crap now as well ahaha.

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#494432 17-Jul-2011 23:51

PenultimateHop:
Ragnor:
Most ISP's are moving customers to EUBA if it's available from the exchange/cabinet they are connected to.

Really? I thought most ISPs were whining that EUBA required an architecture change on their side, and sometimes a BRAS/LNS change...

The benefit to moving far outweighs the cons of staying with the old services, notably that ethernet handover links aren't dimensioned in the same (bad) way the old atm ones are.

Snap, Slingshot/Callplus, Orcon and Xnet have all been actively moving their customers.

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#494433 17-Jul-2011 23:57

maverick:

Actually Ragnor this was from my home DSL connection on the Northshore in Auckland, was cabinetised last week btw finally , Cameron is getting the info from you guys to us to chase up, at this stage we don't see the issue but are looking as the results you have are a bit strange.

To clarify I think Allen was looking at the speedtest image from your signature on every post not the latency graph image you posted earlier in the thread.

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#494443 18-Jul-2011 06:14

argh of course Ragnor your right .... :)

Yes I am a employee of WxC (My Profile) ... but I do have my own opinions as well

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#494445 18-Jul-2011 06:52

Ragnor: The benefit to moving far outweighs the cons of staying with the old services, notably that ethernet handover links aren't dimensioned in the same (bad) way the old atm ones are.

Oh I quite agree that EUBA is a better product all round, but the reaction I had heard from the ISPs was rather... un-excited.

Note that the Ethernet handovers (which were also available with UBS/UBA) are dimensioned very similarly to ATM handover subscribers (number of subscribers * CIR purchased and the three-month growth factor).

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#494771 18-Jul-2011 15:02

PenultimateHop:
Ragnor: The benefit to moving far outweighs the cons of staying with the old services, notably that ethernet handover links aren't dimensioned in the same (bad) way the old atm ones are.

Oh I quite agree that EUBA is a better product all round, but the reaction I had heard from the ISPs was rather... un-excited.

Note that the Ethernet handovers (which were also available with UBS/UBA) are dimensioned very similarly to ATM handover subscribers (number of subscribers * CIR purchased and the three-month growth factor).

From earlier this month:

We notified you that we intended to provide dimensioning on Enhanced UBA (EUBA) and Wholesale VDSL2 Service (WVS’) handovers in mid 2011. However due to resource constraints, the launch has been delayed.

"EUBA and WVS best efforts dimensioning project is now targeted to launch at the end of 2011. Unfortunately at this stage, we are unable to give you a definite date."

"Artificial scarcity" mode hasn't been enabled yet!!

I wonder if they ever will because when they do it won't just be the other ISP's suffering, Telecom Retail performance will suffer badly too.

Dark days ahead, bring on UFB.

RedJalapeno

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#494915 18-Jul-2011 18:24

I'm confused, is there any legitimate justification for putting artificial constraints on EUBA? Or is telecom wholesale full of sadists who like to see NZers having a terrible broadband experience?

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#494925 18-Jul-2011 18:31

Ragnor: From earlier this month:

That is quite interesting, I've certainly seen configured rate limits on handover interfaces.

RedJalapeno:
I'm confused, is there any legitimate justification for putting artificial constraints on EUBA? Or is telecom wholesale full of sadists who like to see NZers having a terrible broadband experience?

It is a consequence of network management and economics.

AllenG

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Ultimate Geek

#495436 19-Jul-2011 20:47

Still seeing jittery latency during evenings.
20:45 tonight

Pretty much dead flat at 46ms during the day.

Is this the new "Normal"?

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