[TelstraClear] TelstraClear transparent proxy is http 1.0 only?

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#91953 24-Oct-2011 17:34

Is just me or it appears the TelstraClear proxy is identifying itself as http 1.0 only?

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#536971 24-Oct-2011 17:52

freitasm: Is just me or it appears the TelstraClear proxy is identifying itself as http 1.0 only?

Sorry MF , Can you please paste your modem stats and liek all of it

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#536973 24-Oct-2011 18:06

I'm just going from what Geekzone receives from my browser requests. Other networks show the request as "http 1.1" but the ones from home show the request as "http 1.0" so I can only assume is the proxy.

The proxy tech specs should tell the story... Does it support http 1.1 or not?

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#536979 24-Oct-2011 18:26

Morph: Sorry MF , Can you please paste your modem stats and liek all of it

hahahahahah.... I liked that post. :)

I suspect he needs to put a central splitter in to fix this.

MF have you called the Help desk and lodge a fault here?

... ok, back on topic...

1. Why do we care? (serious question there, I don't know squat about 1 and 1.1).

2. Do you want some of us with web servers to have a closer look?

3. I thought GZ was on shore, are Telstra proxying all the traffic now?

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#536981 24-Oct-2011 18:28

1. Because http 1.1 is much more efficient than http 1.0, including better caching and the ability to request partial objects

2. No need, I have tested from other servers already

3. Everything goes through their proxy.

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#536994 24-Oct-2011 19:48

Why the concern?

Are you thinking about the issues from a content provider point of view, with an interest to see ISPs provide better cacheing to reduce load on your resources?[1]

[1] Which for the record seems very fair when they're gaining value from moving your content to their customers for whom they are charging money per bite and byte.

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#537002 24-Oct-2011 20:18

DonGould: Why the concern?

Are you thinking about the issues from a content provider point of view, with an interest to see ISPs provide better cacheing to reduce load on your resources?

Not only that, but as a consumer of ALL other sites, if their proxy is not able to effectively cache resources or speed up resources fetch by using other techniques, then the entire web slows down for me.

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#537080 25-Oct-2011 00:05

I wouldn't be surprised if Telstraclear's proxy was ipv4 and http 1.0 only.

Quite odd that national traffic goes via the proxy, seems of dubious value... but I guess if it's the magic sauce that that makes Telstraclear a few ms faster on the "browsing tests" that TrueNet and Epitrio do it makes marketing sense.

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#537110 25-Oct-2011 06:43

Ragnor: I wouldn't be surprised if Telstraclear's proxy was ipv4 and http 1.0 only.

I would be surprised if it didn't support it - HTTP/1.1 is 14 years old.

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#537220 25-Oct-2011 11:02

PenultimateHop:
Ragnor: I wouldn't be surprised if Telstraclear's proxy was ipv4 and http 1.0 only.

I would be surprised if it didn't support it - HTTP/1.1 is 14 years old.

Well that's a fair point, incidentally I think the first RFC's for ipv6 came out around that time, 1996ish.

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#537610 26-Oct-2011 10:14

freitasm: Is just me or it appears the TelstraClear proxy is identifying itself as http 1.0 only?

What do you see on your Telstraclear cable connection?

In Firefox Firebug, Google Chrome Dev Tools or IE9 Dev Tools you can view the headers of any request on the network tab.

Firebug and Chrome have a "view source" button on the for the raw headers

Though I guess it could be:

you >> http 1.1 >> proxy >> http 1.0 >> web server

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#537614 26-Oct-2011 10:21

Using HTTPFox I see my browser issuing a http 1.1 request and I see a http 1.1 200 response. That's fine.

But when I say I saw it as http 1.0 I was talking about the proxy connection to the Internet, as seen from the server receiving the request, not from the client (my connection).

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#544980 14-Nov-2011 09:28

Quite odd that national traffic goes via the proxy, seems of dubious value... but I guess if it's the magic sauce that that makes Telstraclear a few ms faster on the "browsing tests" that TrueNet and Epitrio do it makes marketing sense.

Only international traffic goes through the proxies - they're sitting in between the international and domestic border routers, so there's no way for traffic to NZ hosts to go through them unless the other ISP advertises more specific BGP routes via their international path.

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#545044 14-Nov-2011 11:07

Thanks for clarifying Dave.

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#545336 14-Nov-2011 20:12

daverobb:

Quite odd that national traffic goes via the proxy, seems of dubious value... but I guess if it's the magic sauce that that makes Telstraclear a few ms faster on the "browsing tests" that TrueNet and Epitrio do it makes marketing sense.

Only international traffic goes through the proxies - they're sitting in between the international and domestic border routers, so there's no way for traffic to NZ hosts to go through them unless the other ISP advertises more specific BGP routes via their international path.

(Yes, I work for TelstraClear)

Or unless the traffic ends up going via the US because of TelstraClear's (lack of) peering policy, instead of remaining within the same city.

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#545339 14-Nov-2011 20:15

Screeb: Or unless the traffic ends up going via the US because of TelstraClear's (lack of) peering policy, instead of remaining within the same city.

There's no "lack of peering policy". There's a "lack of peering". That's the policy.

Not quite true though. But we know what you mean.

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