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#2350004 8-Nov-2019 09:17

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I still remember a story from around 10 years or so ago of a woman in Titahi Bay who kept protesting about new cellsites in Titahi Bay. She claimed she chose to live there because all the power cables were underground and because their were no cellsites.

She seemed to totally overlook the (at the time) three huge AM transmitters that overlook Titahi Bay, with the main 220m mast outputting high power AM signals that would have literally been thousands of times stronger than a low powered cellsite.

The one that emitted enough power to illuminate a fluorescent tube connected between an aerial and earth?

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#2350007 8-Nov-2019 09:22

An interesting article here. It claims Russia is stoking the anti 5G lobby.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/12/science/5g-phone-safety-health-russia.html

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#2350008 8-Nov-2019 09:24

The anti-5G brigade have been gathering speed on the Shore (I live in Bayview/Glenfield). I've had notices put in my letterbox (ignoring the "No Junk Mail" sign) and I've seen stickers on council rubbish bins.

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#2350013 8-Nov-2019 09:46

Technofreak:

sbiddle:

I still remember a story from around 10 years or so ago of a woman in Titahi Bay who kept protesting about new cellsites in Titahi Bay. She claimed she chose to live there because all the power cables were underground and because their were no cellsites.

She seemed to totally overlook the (at the time) three huge AM transmitters that overlook Titahi Bay, with the main 220m mast outputting high power AM signals that would have literally been thousands of times stronger than a low powered cellsite.

The one that emitted enough power to illuminate a fluorescent tube connected between an aerial and earth?

According to my next door neighbour who worked there as a youngster, you didn't need an earth.
It was a party trick for the children's Christmas Party. Someone would go out into the paddock under the antenna with a sheet draped over them and a fluorescent light tube. When they held the tube in the correct orientation, the electric field strength from the transmission antenna was enough to strike an arc and illuminate the tube. The kids would get a nice safe scare from the "ghost" prancing around in the paddock going "ooooooo" 😃

Oh and he said the input feed to the lovely little Art Deco transmitter house was 300kVA. Even allowing for only 50% efficiency, that would make the radiated power somewhere close to 150,000W. That's between a thousand and five thousand times more powerful than a typical cell site.
And why you can hear National Radio on 567AM as far north as Hawera!

Edit: Speeling eras

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#2350018 8-Nov-2019 10:03

Hi as an ex BCNZ Tx tech I can tell you that even smaller 5kW transmitters would light up a fluro tube when near the base of the mast, no earth or antenna required, they just lit up. In fact it was common practice to permanently leave tubes in the combiner hut at the bottom of the mast to light the room 24x7. which was a good thing as they were nasty places to go with large coils and capacitors layed exposed.

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#2350137 8-Nov-2019 12:58

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I don't live there, but I'd go along. Just to add to the following meetings I have been to:

Anti vax meeting
Flat Earth Society
Chemtrailers
Anti 4G brigade
Anti 3G brigade

is there an anti broadband ? or fiber 😄

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#2350246 8-Nov-2019 14:32

Don't even joke about it. My mother is becoming more susceptible to this nonsense as she grows older. For example she won't have compact fluorescent bulbs in the house because apparently there is a dangerous amount of mercury in them (were you to eat one). I'm positive the broken glass would put 100% of people off eating one, but.....

If I told her that it was possible to prick your finger on an exposed fibre and get brain damage from glass fibre in your blood she wouldn't have internet in the house.

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#2350305 8-Nov-2019 16:57

i find it funny that the people over the bays area are not wanting coverage. they have for years had patchy coverage and i have come across a couple of mobile boosters ppl have installed to get better coverage that have gone faulty.

these ppl are def the type of people that believe in the government and chem trials etc.

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#2350309 8-Nov-2019 17:28

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i find it funny that the people over the bays area are not wanting coverage. they have for years had patchy coverage and i have come across a couple of mobile boosters ppl have installed to get better coverage that have gone faulty.

these ppl are def the type of people that believe in the government and chem trials etc.

Well that's a conspiracy in it's self; shutting down peoples mobile boosters? We know these cheap imported boosters don't really interfere with networks, its just a scam for telcos to make more money!

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#2350456 8-Nov-2019 20:41

coffeebaron:

BioNz:

i find it funny that the people over the bays area are not wanting coverage. they have for years had patchy coverage and i have come across a couple of mobile boosters ppl have installed to get better coverage that have gone faulty.

these ppl are def the type of people that believe in the government and chem trials etc.

Well that's a conspiracy in it's self; shutting down peoples mobile boosters? We know these cheap imported boosters don't really interfere with networks, its just a scam for telcos to make more money!

it keeps me employed.

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#2350457 8-Nov-2019 21:11

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I just always laugh react at those posts on facebook in the local pages and then eventually the OP will turn off comments or delete it. Minority of idiots shouldnt be listened to or engaged.

I saw that too, if we're thinking about the same post? She said something about she didn't believe the hype about 5G until she saw a video online by some so-called self-proclaimed "expert". When everyone started taking the mickey out of her she got all butthurt and turned off replies. You mean the one with the bloke in the tinfoil hat eh? That was crackup.

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#2350466 8-Nov-2019 21:13

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Wonder if my wifes old friend will be there........ she was opposing every cell tower install she could.... I did ask how much she relied on her mobile - LOTS was the answer.

Sounds a bit like Greenpeace's protests against globalisation - what are their own most used "tools of the trade" to accomplish this? cellphones and the internet

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#2351408 11-Nov-2019 09:07

Won't NZ Telco's be using existing 3G/4G bands 700/850/900/1800/2100/2400 for their main 5G coverage areas? Most will likely re-use existing infrastructure and will only have to swap out the transceivers or remote radio heads. the tin hat brigade wont even know 5G has landed or have a chance to protest it.

Pretty sure existing Radio licenses cover them for 5G so no extra notifications required to RSM group either.

The higher frequencies 3.5G to 60Ghz will need thousands of base stations and will likely be in building solution as the range is in 10-100's of meters. Not useful or practical for covering an entire city.

It seems odd to me that people who gladly use 2G/3G/4G are getting upset about 5G. Non-ionizing radiation is Non-ionizing radiation doesn't matter which G you pick.

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#2351433 11-Nov-2019 10:02

langi27:

Won't NZ Telco's be using existing 3G/4G bands 700/850/900/1800/2100/2400 for their main 5G coverage areas? Most will likely re-use existing infrastructure and will only have to swap out the transceivers or remote radio heads. the tin hat brigade wont even know 5G has landed or have a chance to protest it.

3.5GHz will likely be the primary band for 5G coverage in NZ with mmWave used in high density areas to deliver the throughput people expect from 5G

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#2351440 11-Nov-2019 10:11

Is there anything even ratified for 5g NR higher than 30ish GHZ?

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