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Topic # 55267 27-Dec-2009 20:09
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I've replaced my winXP pc with a win7 machine. Network printing no longer works. This seems to be a common issue with Win7 having Access Denied errors with network printers, but I can't find a solution that works for my printer. Does anyone have any thoughts?

I don't believe the printer installation is at issue, because it worked previously with the XP m/c.  I've rebooted the server it is attached to, just in case, but to no good effect.  I've since sold the XP, so can't go back to that to help with fault finding.

I've upgraded the printer driver on Win7, and have proven that direct printing from the usb port on PC is fine. The print job appears in the print queue, but after a couple of minutes there is an error message "Error - Printing" Not very helpful.

The new PC has Norton security built in, but I don't believe the firewall is the issue.  I've tried disabling for a period, and setting the server as a 'trusted' site - no effect.  If there is any troubleshooting to prove/disprove this, that might be helpful.

I've heard mention of 'compatability mode' with Win7, is that relevant to a solution here?

There are some similar posts elsewhere, but none seem to quite fit what I'm doing.  e.g.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistaprinting/thread/8c3c3d97-9d85-4ab0-9fc8-4b7aba202fb2
http://forums.techarena.in/networking-security/1177634.htm
http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/21951-windows-7-access-shared-printer-xp.html

Anyone with ideas or suggestions?

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  Reply # 285488 27-Dec-2009 20:36
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If you post a little more detail about your setup, someone may be able to help you a bit faster. Info like what your printer is and how it is connected to the server (ie slave, network cable, wireless etc).

If it's a network printer, what's it's IP address? What's the IP address of your Win7 machine? What brand is the printer? etc...



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  Reply # 285489 27-Dec-2009 20:44
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PC is wireless connected to a WAG54G router.
server is a Thecus N2100 RAID with USB print server.
Printer is a Canon MP610 and installed as http://IP_ADDR/printer/usb-printer. Connected to the RAID on a USB port.

all the above worked with WinXP, but not on Win7.

I left the RAID details out earlier, because I suspect that these will be red herrings as far as fixing the print problem will be concerned.

I can access the RAID over the network but not the printer. Thus it is not a routing problem, but is surely concerned with the print setup.

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  Reply # 285493 27-Dec-2009 21:19
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farfields:
Printer is a Canon MP610 and installed as http://IP_ADDR/printer/usb-printer. Connected to the RAID on a USB port.


Above line isn't what the manual says though is it. Manual refers to a specific port. Did you use this port.




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  Reply # 285718 28-Dec-2009 21:09
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I've found the best way in Win7 is to install a new local printer on a new port.
So, Go to Devices and Printers folder,
Click Add a Printer
Click Add Local Printer
Click Create New Port
Select Local Port
In Port name, enter the UNC address of your printer - eg \\RAID\Printer_Name
It may then automatically find the drivers, or you may have to point windows at the driver for your printer.
After that, you're good to go. This has worked for me a few times in Win7 when I've had Access Denied messages.



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  Reply # 285912 29-Dec-2009 20:09
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Hi trig42, thanks for the response. Suggestion didn't take me any further unfortunately. Here's what I did:
Removed previous printer installation. Rebooted computer.
Devices and Printers folder,
Click Add a Printer
Click Add Local Printer
Click Create New Port
Select Local Port
entered addres as \\N2100RAID\printer\usb-printer
Had error message "system cannot find the file specified"
I think that this is because of the way the NAS works. The NAS file system is mounted as \\N2100RAID\ but the printer is not visible directly as a file type device. It is managed via the Linux OS that is being run. I presume this is why print jobs are sent via the TCP port.

So, I tried again with the install using:
Add a Printer
Add Local Printer
Create new Port
Select TCP/IP Port
Host name http://192.168.1.100:631/printers/usb-printer
Enter Port number also as 631

The printer appears in the printer list, but as before print job just sits in the queue and does not appear in the print tray!

Question: What is the meaning of the Port Name as:
http://192.168.1.100:631/printers/usb-printer_1
Is the "_1" significant? i.e. why does this get appended, and why can't it be edited?




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  Reply # 286167 30-Dec-2009 22:00
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I've found a new tip that might have a bearing....
After deleting previous instances of the printer setup, and rebooting, I followed this instructions:

1) Share Permissions
1. On explorer, go to C:\windows\system32\spool\PRINTERS
2. Right click, Properties
3. Sharing tab
4. Advanced Sharing
5. Check "Share this folder"
6. Permissions
7. Grant everyone Full Control

2) NTFS Permissions
1. On explorer, go to C:\windows\system32\spool\printers
2. Right click, Properties
3. Security tab
4. Edit
5. Add
6. Advanced
7. Find Now
8. Choose "NETWORK"
9. OK
10. Grant NETWORK Full Control

then reinstalled the printer again, as a local port with TCP/IP path

Unfortunately, this hasn't fixed the problem :-(

However, I describe what I did as it may give a clue to a reader here on what the cause of the problem is. I do note that during a print job that the system32 path described does, temporarily, contain the print file. I guess this means the print job gets into the queue, but doesn't get to the printer. sigh.

thanks,
FF


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