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Geektastic: Because it’s the USA where you can be sued for not warning a customer that their coffee might be hot?

Warnings over the safety of OceanGate's Titan submersible were repeatedly dismissed by the CEO of the company, email exchanges with a leading deep sea exploration specialist show.

 

 

In messages seen by the BBC, Rob McCallum told OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush that he was potentially putting his clients at risk and urged him to stop using the sub until it had been certified by an independent agency.

 

 

Mr Rush responded that he was "tired of industry players who try to use a safety argument to stop innovation".

 

 

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"We have heard the baseless cries of 'you are going to kill someone' way too often," he wrote. "I take this as a serious personal insult."

neb: Titan sub CEO dismissed safety warnings as 'baseless cries', emails show

Warnings over the safety of OceanGate's Titan submersible were repeatedly dismissed by the CEO of the company, email exchanges with a leading deep sea exploration specialist show. In messages seen by the BBC, Rob McCallum told OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush that he was potentially putting his clients at risk and urged him to stop using the sub until it had been certified by an independent agency. Mr Rush responded that he was "tired of industry players who try to use a safety argument to stop innovation". [...] "We have heard the baseless cries of 'you are going to kill someone' way too often," he wrote. "I take this as a serious personal insult."

”Hoist on his own petard.”

eracode:

Hoist on his own petard.”

neb:

Geektastic: Because it’s the USA where you can be sued for not warning a customer that their coffee might be hot?

That story has been mangled over time to the point where it's almost an urban legend. What happened was that McDonalds had a long history of serving coffee at excessively high temperatures, leading to over seven hundred burns complaints in the decade before this happened. McDonalds was well aware that it was a serious problem stretching back years but chose to do nothing. The woman who was burned received third-degree burns and spent over a week in hospital getting skin grafts to replace the skin burned off, and required ongoing care after that, the lawsuit was to cover her medical costs. Doesn't mean the US isn't the world capital of frivolous litigation, but this particular case isn't one of them.

Don't come in here with actual facts. "Common sense" and reckons are all that's required, none of these here facts.

neb: Titan sub CEO dismissed safety warnings as 'baseless cries', emails show

Warnings over the safety of OceanGate's Titan submersible were repeatedly dismissed by the CEO of the company, email exchanges with a leading deep sea exploration specialist show. In messages seen by the BBC, Rob McCallum told OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush that he was potentially putting his clients at risk and urged him to stop using the sub until it had been certified by an independent agency. Mr Rush responded that he was "tired of industry players who try to use a safety argument to stop innovation". [...] "We have heard the baseless cries of 'you are going to kill someone' way too often," he wrote. "I take this as a serious personal insult."

#innovation

Currently watching BBC News at Six from last night on iPlayer. One of their main commentators on this incident is a guy called Rob McCallum. Thought I recognised the accent and found this:

https://wikitia.com/wiki/Rob_McCallum

Handle9:

 

Don't come in here with actual facts. "Common sense" and reckons are all that's required, none of these here facts.

 

Pairs well with the guilty until proven innocent that is prevalent in every single similar thread here. Let's not wait for the results of an investigation...

neb:

Geektastic: Because it’s the USA where you can be sued for not warning a customer that their coffee might be hot?

That story has been mangled over time to the point where it's almost an urban legend. What happened was that McDonalds had a long history of serving coffee at excessively high temperatures, leading to over seven hundred burns complaints in the decade before this happened. McDonalds was well aware that it was a serious problem stretching back years but chose to do nothing. The woman who was burned received third-degree burns and spent over a week in hospital getting skin grafts to replace the skin burned off, and required ongoing care after that, the lawsuit was to cover her medical costs.

Doesn't mean the US isn't the world capital of frivolous litigation, but this particular case isn't one of them.

Paul1977: James Cameron sounds very knowledgable, and is visibly angry at points: