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  #3311814 22-Nov-2024 11:09
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What is this "Desktop" of which you speak?  Is it where you place your keyboard?




  #3311816 22-Nov-2024 11:17
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MadEngineer: It wasn’t that long ago that you couldn’t drag-drop attachments from one email to another in Outlook 365. I see that’s now fixed so you don’t need to save to the desktop first.

Next issue is that you can’t add folders from shared mailboxes into your own favourites.

No doubt that’ll eventually get fixed and “New” will eventually get the same functionality as “old” but at that point they may as well be the same thing.

 

I've been fairly disappointed with the reduced functionality and many bugs in the "New" Outlook that I've finally given up and reverted back to the "Old" Outlook. Thankfully the Old one is still an option but I am well aware it won't be available for much longer.

 

One missing function I miss is the Quick Actions. I use that to store templates which I frequently used.

 

Bugs wise I've had lots of weird text input bugs (some of which may be new "features"). I've had situations where I'm typing and suddenly it drops the cursor at some random place. Or I start typing a new email and it doesn't appear -- seems that there are some edge cases when it doesn't focus the input into the text box correctly. I've also noticed if the mouse cursor is hovered over an email address and the little pop up appears you can't type anything at all--I suspect in this case the pop up box with the contact details has stolen the focus. Lots of very subtle bugs like that.

 

Pasting into Outlook has different behavior depending on the origin, depending on where you're pasting to, whether you have text already selected, etc. For one accustomed to the old Outlook (which follows the same paste behavior as Word) the new one is very odd indeed. One example is if you select a text in New Outlook, and paste a URL while that text is selected, instead of replacing the text it turns the selected text into a hyperlink to the URL I'm trying to paste. Maybe helpful if I intended that but most of the time I just want to paste the URL as it is -- it is easy enough to select, Ctrl-K, paste if I actually do want a hyperlink. I've not been impressed with how it handles pastes from Excel either -- old Outlook was much better with more complex pastes.


  #3311820 22-Nov-2024 11:20
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Sure, the Desktop is easy to find. But if there's one thing I've learned from early Windows days, it is that a Desktop with too many files would slow down Windows. So I don't leave anything there, to this day.

 

 

I have a folder called 'Stash' on my desktop -- if I'm needing to move files between two apps etc I just save there and then open/upload from there. Every now and then I just delete all the contents. It's like a /tmp folder for me.




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  #3311821 22-Nov-2024 11:24
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It's ok, depending on how you use it. My desktop syncs to OneDrive, which means temporary files would be uploaded.

 

I have a backup routine on my NAS, so my OneDrive contents will be downloaded to the NAS. I don't need or want temporary files in a backup that will be on the NAS for months.

 

So I put everything in Downloads to keep things tidy.





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  #3311822 22-Nov-2024 11:27
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KiwiSurfer:

 

I've been fairly disappointed with the reduced functionality and many bugs in the "New" Outlook that I've finally given up and reverted back to the "Old" Outlook.

 

 

Our IT department got enough complaints about it that they removed the option for New and put everyone back onto Old.


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  #3311867 22-Nov-2024 14:43
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MadEngineer: ... you don’t need to save to the desktop first.



For these situations, there's a folder called Downloads. You know, where downloads would go.


Sure, the Desktop is easy to find. But if there's one thing I've learned from early Windows days, it is that a Desktop with too many files would slow down Windows. So I don't leave anything there, to this day.

Totally agree. Try telling that to whom I provide assistance for.




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  #3311873 22-Nov-2024 14:58
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MadEngineer:

 

freitasm:

 

MadEngineer: ... you don’t need to save to the desktop first.

 

 

For these situations, there's a folder called Downloads. You know, where downloads would go.

 

Sure, the Desktop is easy to find. But if there's one thing I've learned from early Windows days, it is that a Desktop with too many files would slow down Windows. So I don't leave anything there, to this day.

 

 

Totally agree. Try telling that to whom I provide assistance for.

 

 

I don't try telling my wife, why would I try telling anyone else not on Geekzone? 

 

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  #3311947 22-Nov-2024 19:32
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Seems like in almost everything I use, if there's a spelling error, right clicking on the word bring up possible corrections. In the new MS Mail Outlook thing its left click to bring up possibles.

 

Or something like that. 





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  #3311999 22-Nov-2024 20:26
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Not sure why they put the new outlook button in outlook, one is going to be ‘Outlook for Windows’ and the other is Outlook Classic as far as I am aware - different products and use-case.

 

Outlook classic to me has always been about messaging and collaboration - with the latter being, calendaring and [resource] scheduling, appointments and meetings, notes and tasks,  custom views and folders (filters) etc.

 

 

 

 





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  #3312421 24-Nov-2024 13:00
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  #3312483 24-Nov-2024 20:49
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I’ve been an Apple convert since 2007 around the time of Windows ME. I used to use the analogy that using a Windows machine was like putting my car in for service weekly to keep it running at 100% safely and effectively. I’ve never had that worry with Apple. I even used to build my own Windows machines  (sigh)

 

Now having said that, Apple does not have an enterprise system like Windows does

 

but why do, MS, have to make things sooo complicated and bury things so deep.   3,4,5,6, layers deep menus

 

i refuse to do IT family Windows machines or Android, for that matter, because they are so not intuitive 

 

the old Apple slogan “they just work” is so true (hardware failures aside on 10 yr old machines)

 

but I do feel for all you knowledgeable techs and non techs out there with all your Microsoft woes





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  #3312488 24-Nov-2024 21:18
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FineWine:

 

I’ve been an Apple convert since 2007 around the time of Windows ME. I used to use the analogy that using a Windows machine was like putting my car in for service weekly to keep it running at 100% safely and effectively. I’ve never had that worry with Apple. I even used to build my own Windows machines  (sigh)

 

Now having said that, Apple does not have an enterprise system like Windows does

 

but why do, MS, have to make things sooo complicated and bury things so deep.   3,4,5,6, layers deep menus

 

i refuse to do IT family Windows machines or Android, for that matter, because they are so not intuitive 

 

the old Apple slogan “they just work” is so true (hardware failures aside on 10 yr old machines)

 

but I do feel for all you knowledgeable techs and non techs out there with all your Microsoft woes

 

 

Apple fans say this kind of thing all the time but it has not been my experience. I went from CP/M to MS Dos to Windows and that has always been my world. I have dabbled with Linux and I have an old Apple laptop I inherited that I keep as an email machine but any time I need to do anything on it that involves any kind of deviation from a well-worn path, it is like Indiana Jones trying to work his way through another supernatural snakepit as boulders ring down on him and mobs of fanatics pursue him. For me Apple has always been the clunkiest, most unintuitive OS imaginable. With Windows I can just click on something and have it happen. With Apple I have to painfully type any number of cryptic nonsense formulas into Terminal and rub my stomach with one hand while patting my head with the other and then it still doesn't work because I forgot something or made a typo 20 lines earlier. I fully realise this is entirely due to my lack of experience with it, and that is the point I am making. If you are used to Windows, then Windows feels intuitive to you. The same with Apple or any other system. It has nothing to do with any inherent quality, just what you are used to. When I was young I was a pretty good indoor roller skater but I could never make the transition to ice. It was familiar but also different and tricks I could do on rollers just landed me on my bum on ice. It was less frustrating just to go back to the roller rink where I ruled so I never did learn to ice skate.

 

 





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  #3312495 24-Nov-2024 22:09
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FineWine:

 

I’ve been an Apple convert since 2007 around the time of Windows ME. I used to use the analogy that using a Windows machine was like putting my car in for service weekly to keep it running at 100% safely and effectively. I’ve never had that worry with Apple. I even used to build my own Windows machines  (sigh)

 

Now having said that, Apple does not have an enterprise system like Windows does

 

but why do, MS, have to make things sooo complicated and bury things so deep.   3,4,5,6, layers deep menus

 

i refuse to do IT family Windows machines or Android, for that matter, because they are so not intuitive 

 

the old Apple slogan “they just work” is so true (hardware failures aside on 10 yr old machines)

 

but I do feel for all you knowledgeable techs and non techs out there with all your Microsoft woes

 

 

I can't say this has been my experience.

 

I use Android (Samsung) tablets for personal use and Apple tablets for work. I am yet to see anything that makes an Apple tablet any better than an Android tablet. 

 

I have a Dell 14Z laptop which is over 10 years old, it started life on Win & now on Win 11. It keeps on keeping on. It's done it's fair share of travelling. One new DVD drive and a new battery in that time. 





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  #3314225 29-Nov-2024 15:40
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Another "New Outlook" brain dead moment. One of my colleagues accidentally added a common misspelling of a word to the dictionary, so the spell check no longer picks up this common typo. And to date no one has been able to work out how to remove it from the dictionary. 





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