shk292:

 

frankv:

 

What problem do you have with Islamification? It sounds like you think it's a bad thing?

 

 

 

 

Primarily I'm opposed to religion having significant influence on the legislative and executive functions of government, or controlling people's lives in extra-judicial ways. 

 

Another thing we agree on! :)

 

And those things seem to happen more frequently and to a greater extent in Islamic nations/societies.

 

You have any evidence for that statement?

 

I'm not a huge fan of FGM, stoning, preventing women from driving or throwing homosexuals of tall buildings either - but any suggestions that those phenomena have anything to do with Islamification are presumably "laughable"

 

And another thing we agree on! Yes, all of those things are bad. But (a) there's lots of Muslims who don't do them, and (b) there's lots of non-Muslims who *do* do them. What evidence do you have that those things are in any way associated with Islamification? Bearing in mind that correlation is not necessarily causation. I suggest that these kinds of backward attitudes and behaviours are more to do with people who choose to hold onto old beliefs and values as if they were in some way perfect and accurate, than with any particular religious affiliation.

I'm not a fan of Islam, simply because it is a religion, which inherently makes it a nutty thing, and a vehicle for prejudice, manipulation, extortion, and other bad things. And consequently I don't want Islamification of anywhere. But Islam is no worse than Christianity, Judaism, Shintoism, or any other religion that I know anything about. So Islamification is no worse than Christianisation (and perhaps a whole lot better, if you look into how e.g. South America was Christianised) or Judaification or any other religious expansion.