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  #2655345 12-Feb-2021 16:42
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BlinkyBill:

Geektastic:


Whilst we are doing silly expressions


 


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"On premise" - no, you mean "on premises" as the singular of premises is premises not premise in that context.



I think you’ve tried this before.


Firstly, if you mean site or location, then both ‘on premise’ and ‘on premises’ is wrong, as this context requires hyphenation. Secondly, since ‘premises’ has no adjective, the adaptation of ‘on-premise’ to be used as a forward-positioned adjective is, in fact, grammatically correct.



No it isn’t. Wikipedia for example:

In this sense, the word is always used in the plural, but singular in construction. Note that a single house or a single other piece of property is "premises", not a "premise", although the word "premises" is plural in form; e.g. "The equipment is on the customer's premises", never "The equipment is on the customer's premise".





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  #2655348 12-Feb-2021 16:46
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Handsomedan:

 

^^This.^^ 

 

 

 

After it was dead and buried and everyone moved on, its up and going again...

 

 

Grammar ranter uses bad grammar to complain about grammatically correct grammar. Also uses American convention for quotation mark usage, whilst complaining about the ‘Americanisation’ of English.


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  #2655350 12-Feb-2021 16:49
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Geektastic:

 

No it isn’t. Wikipedia for example:

In this sense, the word is always used in the plural, but singular in construction. Note that a single house or a single other piece of property is "premises", not a "premise", although the word "premises" is plural in form; e.g. "The equipment is on the customer's premises", never "The equipment is on the customer's premise".

 

Those aren’t examples of forward-positioned adjectives, so an irrelevant argument.


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  #2655351 12-Feb-2021 16:51
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I have never needed a funny cat video so badly.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX2qFMC8cFo 





Most of the posters in this thread are just like chimpanzees on MDMA, full of feelings of bonhomie, joy, and optimism. Fred99 8/4/21


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  #2655547 13-Feb-2021 08:51
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BlinkyBill:

Geektastic:


No it isn’t. Wikipedia for example:

In this sense, the word is always used in the plural, but singular in construction. Note that a single house or a single other piece of property is "premises", not a "premise", although the word "premises" is plural in form; e.g. "The equipment is on the customer's premises", never "The equipment is on the customer's premise".


Those aren’t examples of forward-positioned adjectives, so an irrelevant argument.



Given that I can find no definition for the expression “forward positioned adjective” in any grammar reference I have, it appears itself to be one of those made up terms like “on premise”.





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  #2655551 13-Feb-2021 09:20
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https://www.englishforums.com/blog/adjectives-what-to-do-about-them/

 

the positioning of adjectives is important to ensure meaning is correct. If your grammar references don’t discuss adjective positioning, then they are most likely at the elementary level. 


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  #2655561 13-Feb-2021 10:26
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elpenguino:

 

I have never needed a funny cat video so badly.

 

 

Can a video featuring a funny cat be unamusing?

 

(I hate the English language)


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  #2655567 13-Feb-2021 10:45
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martyyn:

Paying CourierPost for overnight delivery so I can have something for the weekend but seeing it still sitting in Christchurch 36 hours later.


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  #2655571 13-Feb-2021 10:59
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people going on about grammar like its a huge deal. society as a whole has gotten lazier, grammar is no exception.

 

you know what the person is trying to say, move on.

 

 


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  #2655643 13-Feb-2021 13:47
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Motorbikes that park within my lines in a parking space, almost touching, so I can’t reverse to get out and too heavy for me to lift away. Felt like revving up and knocking it over. Had to do a dozen manoeuvres to get out without hitting the car in front.

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  #2655659 13-Feb-2021 14:25
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Jase2985:

 

people going on about grammar like its a huge deal. society as a whole has gotten lazier, grammar is no exception.

 

you know what the person is trying to say, move on.

 

 

 

 

Respectfully disagree. A line has to be drawn somewhere. There has to be some kind of standard in order for there to be communication. I do agree the standard does not have to be as rigid as in the past. Language evolves. Society moves on. But I for one do not speak rap and if someone does, I have no idea at all what that person is trying to say.

 

 





Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

 


 


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  #2655664 13-Feb-2021 14:40
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People acting like unguided missiles.




- NET: FTTH, OPNsense, 10G backbone, GWN APs, ipPBX
- SRV: 12 RU HA server cluster, 0.1 PB storage on premise
- IoT:   thread, zigbee, tasmota, BidCoS, LoRa, WX suite, IR
- 3D:    two 3D printers, 3D scanner, CNC router, laser cutter


  #2655669 13-Feb-2021 15:03
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Rikkitic:

 

Jase2985:

 

people going on about grammar like its a huge deal. society as a whole has gotten lazier, grammar is no exception.

 

you know what the person is trying to say, move on.

 

 

 

 

Respectfully disagree. A line has to be drawn somewhere. There has to be some kind of standard in order for there to be communication. I do agree the standard does not have to be as rigid as in the past. Language evolves. Society moves on. But I for one do not speak rap and if someone does, I have no idea at all what that person is trying to say.

 

 

 

 

there is, but being picky to the nth degree like some are in here goes past where most would draw said line. 99% or more people get whats being said with out the need for being pedantic about it.


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  #2655746 13-Feb-2021 17:51
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I am sick to death of hearing about vaccines going into arms. Can't they stick some into butts just to be different?

 

 





Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

 


 


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  #2655781 13-Feb-2021 19:01
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Jase2985:

 

there is, but being picky to the nth degree like some are in here goes past where most would draw said line. 99% or more people get whats being said with out the need for being pedantic about it.

 

 

Not sure how getting it right is “being picky to the nth degree”. Those who are lazy about grammar are lazy about everything else - attention to detail is important for good job performance.

 

I reject 70% of resumes I get because of poor spelling and poor grammar. That’s why my workforce is awesome - great attention to detail. 

 

However, some have ... other standards.


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