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Topic # 145364 16-May-2014 03:30
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Who decides which prison you go to? Which prison do you go to if your from Queenstown? Got busted for possession with intent to supply cannabis

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  Reply # 1045975 16-May-2014 05:43
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closest ones are invercargill and milton

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  Reply # 1045978 16-May-2014 06:23
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I can't see you getting prison for this!

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1045996 16-May-2014 06:51
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johnr: I can't see you getting prison for this!


Cannabis laws and penalties

Penalties associated with cannabis range from a $500 fine for possession to a 14 year jail term for its supply or manufacture.

Cultivation of cannabis, including to sow or plant it, can, on indictment, result in a 7 year jail term or an immediate 2 years jail term and/or $2,000 fine (depending on the amount).





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  Reply # 1045998 16-May-2014 06:53
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nakedmolerat:
johnr: I can't see you getting prison for this!


Cannabis laws and penalties

Penalties associated with cannabis range from a $500 fine for possession to a 14 year jail term for its supply or manufacture.

Cultivation of cannabis, including to sow or plant it, can, on indictment, result in a 7 year jail term or an immediate 2 years jail term and/or $2,000 fine (depending on the amount).


This is New Zealand, They might get a slap with a wet bus ticket

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Reply # 1045999 16-May-2014 06:54
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queenstown:Got busted for possession with intent to supply cannabis


How much was in your possession?

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  Reply # 1046002 16-May-2014 06:59
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Answer to your question.... The Corrections Department




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  Reply # 1046003 16-May-2014 07:01
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KiwiNZ: Answer to your question.... The Corrections Department


They might get the Hilton in Queenstown then

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  Reply # 1046005 16-May-2014 07:07
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johnr:
KiwiNZ: Answer to your question.... The Corrections Department


They might get the Hilton in Queenstown then


Maybe A dive but I am not sure its that bad :p




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  Reply # 1046007 16-May-2014 07:23
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First offense? Unless you were running a huge grow op, johnr's right.

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  Reply # 1046010 16-May-2014 07:32
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Unless he is of Maori descent, in which case he is pretty well screwed.

http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-nz/yearbook/society/crime/corrections.aspx





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lokhor: Unless he is of Maori descent, in which case he is pretty well screwed.

http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-nz/yearbook/society/crime/corrections.aspx



That's not bias in the courts though.
It's a reflection of societal problems that have young Maori over represented in appearances before the courts in the first place.

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lokhor: Unless he is of Maori descent, in which case he is pretty well screwed.

http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-nz/yearbook/society/crime/corrections.aspx



What planet are you from?

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  Reply # 1046052 16-May-2014 08:59
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Pfft. Community work.  I can think of worse places than Queenstown to be out in nature on a chain gang :)

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  Reply # 1046058 16-May-2014 09:10
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lokhor: Unless he is of Maori descent, in which case he is pretty well screwed.

http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-nz/yearbook/society/crime/corrections.aspx



That's not bias in the courts though.
It's a reflection of societal problems that have young Maori over represented in appearances before the courts in the first place.


You are wrong:
http://www.corrections.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/672574/Over-representation-of-Maori-in-the-criminal-justice-system.pdf

When self-reported offending (and social background) was held constant,
Māori offenders appeared still to be twice as likely to be subject to Police attention,
relative to non-Māori offenders.

A more recent analysis of the same sample, now aged 21, indicated a smaller but
similar effect related to arrest and conviction for cannabis use. This study examined
the associations between the self-reported use of cannabis, and arrest and
conviction for cannabis related offences. Independently of self-declared cannabis
use, Māori were more likely to be arrested and convicted for cannabis use. Previous
police record, self-reported crime, and being male also increased the likelihood of
arrest and conviction. Fergusson et al found this “consistent with a labelling theory
perspective”.


It also shows that Maori are more likely to be imprisoned, rather than receive monetary fines or home detention. 




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  Reply # 1046089 16-May-2014 09:39
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Yes, I've seen that. Very interesting research. It also backs my assertion that it's not bias in sentencing but societal factors that result in increased Maori appearances before the courts and guilty pleas that skew the statistics.
Also points out that monetary penalties disproportionately affect Maori, as an inability to pay results in those higher rates of imprisonment.

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