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#2587903 19-Oct-2020 18:00

eong:

I contacted Orcon, but Orcon refused to have a investigation and said everything was good as it was more than 500Mbps.

But sorry I was not good with only 700Mbps testing speed and 500Mbps real transfer speed to another place in the same city.

After swithing to 2d, I can hit more than 900Mbps in speed testing and same-city file transfer scene. I do not think the cause of slow speed is on my side.

nowhere did i say there was an fault at play ;)

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#2587971 19-Oct-2020 19:05

Well this kinda sucks, I really hoped there would be a good choice when it launched.

What are other people doing?

It sounds like both Orcon and MyRepublic are pretty average, I wish we knew someone else was going to launch shortly - feel like I need to bite the bullet then pay an exit fee to get to someone better when they finally release.

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#2587974 19-Oct-2020 19:09

MrPanda:

So what 'set-up' would take full advantage of 4Gbits?

What do you need it for?

4 Gbit/s connections are only worth it for a user that knows how to set up that kind of high speed networking.

Stick with Gigabit connection. You probably won´t be able to use that to its fullest either.

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#2587975 19-Oct-2020 19:16

If I had the choice of a FibreMAX (1000/500) connection for $100/month and a Hyperfibre 4G connection for $101.49 a month, I would take the FibreMAX and a Whittakers peanut slab.

I think it's a wonderful technology demonstration looking for a problem to solve :-)

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#2587979 19-Oct-2020 19:26

Talkiet:

If I had the choice of a FibreMAX (1000/500) connection for $100/month and a Hyperfibre 4G connection for $101.49 a month, I would take the FibreMAX and a Whittakers peanut slab.

I think it's a wonderful technology demonstration looking for a problem to solve :-)

You're not wrong, Whittakers peanut slabs are delicious - but I could potentially have Hyperfibre and peanut slabs, they're not exclusive purchases.

I guess to me I already have 10gbit built into my motherboard and would enjoy the additional speed, it's obviously a want over a need but I find sometimes I saturate my connection and it would be nice to have things downloaded a bit faster and to not have to wait.

It also would allow me to be more open to what I allow to use upload, and consider things like remote storage.

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#2587991 19-Oct-2020 19:52

Talkiet:

If I had the choice of a FibreMAX (1000/500) connection for $100/month and a Hyperfibre 4G connection for $101.49 a month, I would take the FibreMAX and a Whittakers peanut slab.

I think it's a wonderful technology demonstration looking for a problem to solve :-)

Cheers - N

if my provider would give me a 4Gbit connection, i'd be sure to make use of those bits for good. Maybe even train a speedtest server or two to require upgrades ;)

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#2588001 19-Oct-2020 20:32

I think the key thing here is this is Hyperfibre is still new, and there are limited providers offering it. The latest people to post on here really don't need it nor would be able to take advantage of it.

I seriously say to those people - it is your choice if you're wanting to go for it, upgrade your networks etc but if you have to ask the question "what router do I need", "what switching gear do I need", "What WiFi do I need" or are basing your decisions off international Speedtests on your current provider then take a step back and wait until more ISP's are offering it and hardware is cheaper to get for the general consumer. Hyperfibre won't improve your gaming latency and likely won't fix any current international speed issues you have with your existing provider with the current provider choices.

Everyone is seriously better to wait for now until more providers are offering it. From the Speedtests I've seen from multiple people on MyRepublic as an example (including people outside of these forums) it is seriously not worth the money right now and international connectivity on MyRepublic doesn't appear to be great. I've only seen a couple of tests done on Orcon but I think for those people their internal setup is limiting their achievable speeds.

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#2588026 19-Oct-2020 22:00

hio77:

Talkiet:

If I had the choice of a FibreMAX (1000/500) connection for $100/month and a Hyperfibre 4G connection for $101.49 a month, I would take the FibreMAX and a Whittakers peanut slab.

I think it's a wonderful technology demonstration looking for a problem to solve :-)

Cheers - N

if my provider would give me a 4Gbit connection, i'd be sure to make use of those bits for good. Maybe even train a speedtest server or two to require upgrades ;)

My scripts will defeat your wasteful tendencies :-)

Cheers -N

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#2588027 19-Oct-2020 22:02

michaelmurfy:

I think the key thing here is this is Hyperfibre is still new, and there are limited providers offering it. The latest people to post on here really don't need it nor would be able to take advantage of it.

I seriously say to those people - it is your choice if you're wanting to go for it, upgrade your networks etc but if you have to ask the question "what router do I need", "what switching gear do I need", "What WiFi do I need" or are basing your decisions off international Speedtests on your current provider then take a step back and wait until more ISP's are offering it and hardware is cheaper to get for the general consumer. Hyperfibre won't improve your gaming latency and likely won't fix any current international speed issues you have with your existing provider with the current provider choices.

Everyone is seriously better to wait for now until more providers are offering it. From the Speedtests I've seen from multiple people on MyRepublic as an example (including people outside of these forums) it is seriously not worth the money right now and international connectivity on MyRepublic doesn't appear to be great. I've only seen a couple of tests done on Orcon but I think for those people their internal setup is limiting their achievable speeds.

I agree with you, mostly. Most people do not really need it. But this is a geek forum, right? We are talking about bleeding edge technologies, trying them and sharing experience. Correct me if I am wrong.

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#2588033 19-Oct-2020 22:37

eong:

I agree with you, mostly. Most people do not really need it. But this is a geek forum, right? We are talking about bleeding edge technologies, trying them and sharing experience. Correct me if I am wrong.

Sure, but since this is a geekforum you can expect people that know about a subject to let you know when what you are asking for might not be what you want.

For instance: If you have old wifi equipment with bad reception as your main access to the internet, and expect to get 4 Mbit/s speeds when you get Hyperfibre, you are going to be very disappointed and have wasted a lot of money.

Isn't it better to be told that, then people just cheering someone on to buy a package that will not help them?

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#2588044 19-Oct-2020 23:17

eong:

I agree with you, mostly. Most people do not really need it. But this is a geek forum, right? We are talking about bleeding edge technologies, trying them and sharing experience. Correct me if I am wrong.

But you're combining bleeding edge technology with an ISP who can't even get Gigabit right and from the connections I've seen (both on here, and outside of here) it is no better than Gigabit on the international speed front + actually worse than the likes of 2degrees or even Spark Gigabit. You're wasting your money right now hence why both myself, and others are advising to wait until more providers are on board. It is only a matter of time.

There is nothing worse than moving providers only to find that you're getting worse performance than the current provider you're with despite you having a bigger pipe. Sure you may be able to Speedtest at 4Gbit locally within NZ but outside NZ is where I've seen issues.

If you're wanting to be one of the early adopters then go with the only residential provider who has the network to support it - Orcon.

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#2588052 19-Oct-2020 23:50

michaelmurfy:

eong:

I agree with you, mostly. Most people do not really need it. But this is a geek forum, right? We are talking about bleeding edge technologies, trying them and sharing experience. Correct me if I am wrong.

But you're combining bleeding edge technology with an ISP who can't even get Gigabit right and from the connections I've seen (both on here, and outside of here) it is no better than Gigabit on the international speed front + actually worse than the likes of 2degrees or even Spark Gigabit. You're wasting your money right now hence why both myself, and others are advising to wait until more providers are on board. It is only a matter of time.

There is nothing worse than moving providers only to find that you're getting worse performance than the current provider you're with despite you having a bigger pipe. Sure you may be able to Speedtest at 4Gbit locally within NZ but outside NZ is where I've seen issues.

If you're wanting to be one of the early adopters then go with the only residential provider who has the network to support it - Orcon.

Hi all again

Honestly, I humbly agree with everyone here. My initial, naive thought was just "wow, I can get 4 Gigabit/s now, that's amazing", and things just snowball the more I research into the technology (what equpiment do I need? should I upgrade my wifi system...etc). I guess I bought in the hype of hyperfibre.

Part of me just want to have the latest and the greatest but I really appreciate all the honest feedback from this forum. At the end of the day, I think no one wants to waste their money for a service that is not doing any beneift for the user.

Again, thanks for all the suggestions and recommendation. Right now, I will probably hold it off until more internet provides provide hyperfiber plans.

eong

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#2588053 20-Oct-2020 00:07

michaelmurfy:

eong:

I agree with you, mostly. Most people do not really need it. But this is a geek forum, right? We are talking about bleeding edge technologies, trying them and sharing experience. Correct me if I am wrong.

But you're combining bleeding edge technology with an ISP who can't even get Gigabit right and from the connections I've seen (both on here, and outside of here) it is no better than Gigabit on the international speed front + actually worse than the likes of 2degrees or even Spark Gigabit. You're wasting your money right now hence why both myself, and others are advising to wait until more providers are on board. It is only a matter of time.

There is nothing worse than moving providers only to find that you're getting worse performance than the current provider you're with despite you having a bigger pipe. Sure you may be able to Speedtest at 4Gbit locally within NZ but outside NZ is where I've seen issues.

If you're wanting to be one of the early adopters then go with the only residential provider who has the network to support it - Orcon.

Last time it was not a happy ending with Orcon. I really do not want to talk them again. This is personal. MyRepublic already charged my card and started the work a few days ago. I don't think I can withdraw it. If it is not worse than 1Gbps connection from 2d, I can stay with it and wait for a better provider.

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#2588054 20-Oct-2020 00:12

@MrPanda I agree with you here with the "Wow I can get 4Gbit" as I, too have looked into it but am waiting until my ISP supports it then will have to go chat with the "finance director" about upgrading the network to support 10Gbit. Lets be honest, 1Gbit is still really quick and we're at the envy of Australia and it is only a matter of time before many New Zealanders have 4Gbit and beyond. I think the fact we're almost COVID free, and have 4Gbit available is enough to make much of Australia jealous and want to jump the ditch.

But switching ISP to get it is something I wouldn't do - I hardly utilise my Gigabit connection at the best of times so 4Gbit for me, right now, will be a waste apart from the Speedtests showing I have that sort of speed and I am really happy with my current ISP. The house needs work first before I can afford to upgrade my network in reality :(

I'm not attempting to discourage those who really want it but using the latest iPhones as an example - I'm holding out for the iPhone 12 Pro Max instead of pre-ordering the iPhone 12 Pro now because I want the best iPhone camera possible. It is a daunting wait, but I know it'll be worth it and it is what I really want.

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#2588270 20-Oct-2020 12:22

michaelmurfy:

@MrPanda I agree with you here with the "Wow I can get 4Gbit" as I, too have looked into it but am waiting until my ISP supports it then will have to go chat with the "finance director" about upgrading the network to support 10Gbit. Lets be honest, 1Gbit is still really quick and we're at the envy of Australia and it is only a matter of time before many New Zealanders have 4Gbit and beyond. I think the fact we're almost COVID free, and have 4Gbit available is enough to make much of Australia jealous and want to jump the ditch.

But switching ISP to get it is something I wouldn't do - I hardly utilise my Gigabit connection at the best of times so 4Gbit for me, right now, will be a waste apart from the Speedtests showing I have that sort of speed and I am really happy with my current ISP. The house needs work first before I can afford to upgrade my network in reality :(

I'm not attempting to discourage those who really want it but using the latest iPhones as an example - I'm holding out for the iPhone 12 Pro Max instead of pre-ordering the iPhone 12 Pro now because I want the best iPhone camera possible. It is a daunting wait, but I know it'll be worth it and it is what I really want.

I completely get what you mean. I have spoken to spark and the hyperfibre service won't be available till June next year.

Guess I will wait up and see how things go.

Thank you for the help

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