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#1371788 21-Aug-2015 19:19

My backdoor neighbour has fibre. To him, internet is for checking email

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#1371801 21-Aug-2015 19:42

joker97: My backdoor neighbour has fibre. To him, internet is for checking email

The inverse care law is the principle that the availability of good medical or social care tends to vary inversely with the need of the population served.

Perhaps it applies to UFB?

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#1371802 21-Aug-2015 19:57

Definitely

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#1371803 21-Aug-2015 20:13

I'm in Auckland and have 3-4 years wait, my Mother in Dunedin has it waiting to be connected but doesn't know what it is, dam waste

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#1371827 21-Aug-2015 20:54

boo hoo

you get it a year before i do

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#1371858 21-Aug-2015 21:45

I have fibre. My mate in Melbourne has ADSL1.Yes, 1. The new house at the back of him has fibre. Rome wasn't built in a day, someone is lucky enough to be Monday, some are Sunday.

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#1371894 22-Aug-2015 01:07

And then you get bastards like me who've had UFB running past the gate since early 2013 and haven't connected to it.

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#1371939 22-Aug-2015 09:41

Just signed up for fibre (installation is in two weeks), next door neighbors have had fibre for two years. It only came available to me in the last month. I have been on ADSL1 for approx six years as my only option (4-5 Mbps) and live 2-3km from the CBD. It will come just be patience like everyone else :)

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#1371951 22-Aug-2015 10:26

Falloutboy:
sidefx: You're right. That does sound self entitled (Tongue in cheek of course - you said it first) :p

BTW, it might help to give a clue about where you live and who "the Fibre installation company" is. They differ throughout the country and I'd guess in many cases have very little to do with setting the policies....

EDIT: they do have to draw the line somewhere, and if they moved it to include the house "just one over" it would never end.

The Fibre Installation company is "Enable Networks" and quite literally the house next door can have Fibre and we can't and the time difference is going to be three years because they are cabling other areas before ours gets done - we are the absolute LAST area being cabled.

As it was when VDSL upgrades happened and ADSL was introduced - why are we ALWAYS last - it sucks!

Welcome to the wait club where foot dragging time wasting and red tape are our mortal enemies ;)

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#1371953 22-Aug-2015 10:34

Easy, sell up and move otherwise wait.

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#1371971 22-Aug-2015 11:29

Falloutboy:

It makes me wonder if we are being supplied last to protect Vodafones ability to charge exorbitant prices for cable connections in those areas where cable exists as my understanding is there is very little profitability in UFB for ISPs

Can you please explain your logic behind this comment?

It suggests that you think somehow Vodafone have had enough influence over CFH and Enable networks that they purposely aren't installing UFB. Such a comment is totally preposterous. Why would CFH or Enable do such a thing?

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#1371976 22-Aug-2015 11:48

sbiddle:
Falloutboy:

It makes me wonder if we are being supplied last to protect Vodafones ability to charge exorbitant prices for cable connections in those areas where cable exists as my understanding is there is very little profitability in UFB for ISPs

Can you please explain your logic behind this comment?

It suggests that you think somehow Vodafone have had enough influence over CFH and Enable networks that they purposely aren't installing UFB. Such a comment is totally preposterous. Why would CFH or Enable do such a thing?

Maybe the thought process is that there is already access to high speed broadband services (Vodafone Cable) so no need to rush in willy nilly servicing an already HS enabled area
Who knows but I'd put my money on that being the case though

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#1371988 22-Aug-2015 12:36

Athlonite:
sbiddle:
Falloutboy:
It makes me wonder if we are being supplied last to protect Vodafones ability to charge exorbitant prices for cable connections in those areas where cable exists as my understanding is there is very little profitability in UFB for ISPs

Can you please explain your logic behind this comment?
It suggests that you think somehow Vodafone have had enough influence over CFH and Enable networks that they purposely aren't installing UFB. Such a comment is totally preposterous. Why would CFH or Enable do such a thing?

Maybe the thought process is that there is already access to high speed broadband services (Vodafone Cable) so no need to rush in willy nilly servicing an already HS enabled area
Who knows but I'd put my money on that being the case though

If that were the case then CFH / Chorus / Enable wouldn't be building at all in existing Vodafone Cable areas of Wellington and Christchurch.
However that is obviously not the case as both CFH partners are building to their agreed timelines deploying in both cities.
To me what I find more annoying is MDU's that went purely with TelstraClear back in the day that don't have any copper onsite due to the developer being too cheap to stump up the cash to pay Chorus to provide the service. Those MDUs are going to stay in no-mans-land for many years to come as I would doubt the Body Corps would want to pay for the build to put in fibre.

I only get 14mb ADSL and semi-happily live off that and won't be seeing UFB for at least 2 years. It is what it is, but I know when it does come around I'll be signing up straight away. And if not having UFB was a major issue for me and my family I would move.

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#1372030 22-Aug-2015 14:50

Athlonite:
sbiddle:
Falloutboy:

It makes me wonder if we are being supplied last to protect Vodafones ability to charge exorbitant prices for cable connections in those areas where cable exists as my understanding is there is very little profitability in UFB for ISPs

Can you please explain your logic behind this comment?

It suggests that you think somehow Vodafone have had enough influence over CFH and Enable networks that they purposely aren't installing UFB. Such a comment is totally preposterous. Why would CFH or Enable do such a thing?

Maybe the thought process is that there is already access to high speed broadband services (Vodafone Cable) so no need to rush in willy nilly servicing an already HS enabled area
Who knows but I'd put my money on that being the case though

If there was any basis at all to that logic then there would have been very minimal UFB builds in Wellington, Christchurch and the Kapiti Coast. This is not the case.

If anything the logic you're using should be totally reversed - there exists a huge market of existing HFC customers who are accustomed to high speed connections. It would make sense to target existing HFC areas with UFB first because it delivers a large installed customer base who are aware of the benefits of higher speed and would be keen to move to UFB.

At the end of the day however none of this played any part of the UFB build plans, which are a combination of projected high and low uptake areas that also focused on the core network build so that the network build in the final years is a lot easier.

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#1372040 22-Aug-2015 15:50

Yeah, I live on one of those lines that must be drawn re ADSL (and fibre). I live at the end of a copper cable. The next cabinet is out side the neighbours, but I am connected to a cabinet hundreds of meters away. To compound the issue the cable was full and there were bad pairs getting juggled around the neighbourhood so your ADSL could go bad when someone else in the street had theirs "fixed".

The reverse of the conspiracy theory has been true in the past with ADSL - it didn't seem like any coincidence that Telecom first cabinetised areas that had unbundled exchanges.

<edit: spelling - you're vs your - grrr>

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