Chorus boosting 100/20 fibre to 300/100 in November/December

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#2778825 15-Sep-2021 15:49

jnimmo:

Maybe Chorus can earn more money by forcing the ISPs to install more/bigger handovers than the pricing difference between 100 and gigabit connections to avoid contention after the upgrade to 300Mbps

Unlikely. Prices have come down for 100G since it initially came out and they now do Single port offerings rather than 1+1 for it.

https://sp.chorus.co.nz/product-update/new-product-100gbps-ufb-handover-connection

Bit of a mixed bag overall, with Tail Extension Services it allows a single high capacity handover to cover the entire country for fibre which can bring down the cost for smaller providers (better for those who have a large customer base in a single region) but can be a balancing act for actual viability of ordering when you consider the equipment requirements to terminate to it and the structure of the network for the average small provider. Port availability for 10g and even 100g handovers has been quite spotty for a while now and Chorus are quietly trying to nudge providers out of the main Spark exchanges everyone has been installing to.

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#2778826 15-Sep-2021 15:49

jnimmo:

Maybe Chorus can earn more money by forcing the ISPs to install more/bigger handovers than the pricing difference between 100 and gigabit connections to avoid contention after the upgrade to 300Mbps

I don’t see why data usage would go up greatly from 100 to 300. Netflix is going to use the same. And as updates come down faster, means people will finish downloading faster, so unless everyone starts downloading at same time there will be less overlaps of people downloading at same time.

Also if faster speeds mean they need bigger pipes, they will gain capacity from people down grading from the Gig plans 😁. That I feel is the real reason for wanting to charge more, is the loss of extra profits from this pool of people.

Also other then speed tests I rarely max out my speed. People bit torrenting may, but with the streaming services I’d be surprised if it’s at the level it was a few years ago.

Good to see one ISP not charging extra, once others state their position people in Chorus areas can decide to stay with their current provider or to change. Realise there’s more factors then price to consider.

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#2798069 20-Oct-2021 10:50

I was curious of what the status of this is, and found Chorus published an update last week https://sp.chorus.co.nz/inflight-projects/future-fibre-review

If you scroll down to resources at bottom of page there is marketing, and technical content with timelines. Interesting to see one of their goals is to move NZ into Top 10 in Ookla speed tests - Hope everyone's WiFi doesn't let them down...

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#2798079 20-Oct-2021 11:00

We're 23rd at the moment.... 170Mbps. This will help but given that so many people would be testing over WiFi, it may not be the increase they are hoping for, plus IMO it's likely a lot of people will change down from Gigabit plans, so in the end I don't know if it will make much difference to the Ookla index. Hope I'm proven wrong, will have to check back in a year or so and see how it's looking.

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#2798095 20-Oct-2021 11:17

Downloaded the Change briefing pack and found actual dates :)

Migration is split into 2 parts.

Basically residential UBF 100/20 and business 100/100 customers should see the speed bump sometime last week of Nov.
Chorus done by 25 Nov and the ISP has to do their bit.

Everyone else upgraded a week later.

Yay early Xmas present.

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#2798098 20-Oct-2021 11:20

KrazyKid:

Yay early Xmas present.

Assuming the ISPs are onto making the necessary changes in their internal systems...

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#2798101 20-Oct-2021 11:24

wratterus:

KrazyKid:

Yay early Xmas present.

Assuming the ISPs are onto making the necessary changes in their internal systems...

Yeah I'm thinking more like Jan/Feb in reality.

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#2798117 20-Oct-2021 11:46

NowNZ seem to be on to it judging by the article a few weeks ago. We're with Now, so hoping they make the changes soon after Chorus has done it's thing. 🤞

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#2801400 26-Oct-2021 14:58

Another press release today:

Chorus’ largest-ever performance upgrade for New Zealand fibre customers is expected to catapult New Zealand up the world’s broadband ranking, with projections showing the country is expected to move well into the top ten for fastest broadband in the world by early 2022.

Chorus is working closely with broadband retailers to upgrade customers on its wholesale 100Mbps fibre service. Where broadband retailers flow through the upgrade to their residential customers, the change will triple the download speed to 300Mbps, while increasing the upload speed five-fold from 20Mbps to 100Mbps.

Businesses using Chorus’s wholesale 'Business Evolve' 100/100Mbps plans and 'Small Business Fibre' 100/100Mbps plans that have the upgrade passed on to them will move to upload and download speeds of 300/300Mbps and 500/500Mbps respectively, recognising the importance of upload speeds when working from home or using cloud services.

“When we first started building the fibre network in New Zealand, we had an ambition to be envied globally for our broadband. We believed that our little nation could punch above its weight and be a connectivity powerhouse,” Chorus CEO, JB Rousselot, said.

“The big fibre boost to our standard business and residential fibre plans means we can achieve that. And this is just the beginning of what fibre can do -- the capacity and speeds are virtually limitless.”

Our modelling indicates that once the Chorus upgrade is completed, New Zealand will have an average download speed of about 230 Mbps moving us from 23rd and into the top ten, ahead of the UK, USA and Australia. Chorus intends to encourage Kiwis to measure their speed in February, to track progress, with the full potential from the upgrade being realised in April.

As technology continues to evolve rapidly, Chorus is committed to making sure that Kiwis keep reaping the benefits.

“In 2011, at the start of UFB, 30Mbps was considered a great broadband speed. In 2015, as Netflix launched in New Zealand, great broadband increased to 100Mbps. We recognise that it is now time to shift up a gear again to ensure New Zealanders can take real advantage of the connectivity available to them,” continued Rousselot.

In June, the monthly average household data usage over fibre averaged 500GB or half a terabyte, up from 436GB the year before. The latest lockdown has also seen unprecedented levels of data consumption over the network.

Sixty-six per cent of Kiwi households have connected to fibre, with the figure even higher in Auckland (76%). Demand for reliable, high-capacity broadband continues to grow, with about 20 per cent of fibre customers now opting for a gigabit connection.

Discussions with broadband retailers on how best to pass through the plan speed increase to their customers are underway. Chorus is hopeful that most customers on the 100Mbps fibre plan will be able to benefit from the enhanced performance by the end of the year.

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#2801401 26-Oct-2021 15:01

Summary: we haven't forgotten. We're working on it. No news yet.

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#2801403 26-Oct-2021 15:10

I'm on the 100mbps/100mbps from 2degrees and have upgraded my router from a 100mbps model to 1gbps in anticipation!

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#2801406 26-Oct-2021 15:18

I liked the line, "encourage kiwi's to test in February", AKA advertise the heck out of how cool we are in Feb and also make sure we pull up our speed ranking as much as possible by out numbering any low speed DSL numbers😀

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#2803316 29-Oct-2021 09:58

ISP's are being very quiet about it all. No doubt they will want to offer it with a price increase.

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#2803324 29-Oct-2021 10:02

Mahon:

ISP's are being very quiet about it all. No doubt they will want to offer it with a price increase.

@Mahon The retail ISPs will need to get ready for this change to make sure they have the capacity and it will be a cost if they don't! So this should be passed onto consumers

No idea why you think it should be free for end users!

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#2803333 29-Oct-2021 10:13

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@Mahon The retail ISPs will need to get ready for this change to make sure they have the capacity and it will be a cost if they don't! So this should be passed onto consumers

No idea why you think it should be free for end users!

Although that makes sense and ISPs have to recover costs. The fact Chorus has made it very clear its a free upgrade, and will likely publicly push this hard when its complete, will leave everyday Joe annoyed with the ISP if they do see price increases. Waste of time trying to explain to people there are backend costs etc.

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