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#1322203 10-Jun-2015 14:30

uncle works for electricity ashburton and said the accident thing was a driving factor, might not be THE driving factor though.

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#1323986 13-Jun-2015 12:33

What?

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#1323993 13-Jun-2015 12:39

keewee01:
DonGould:
Jase2985: i think it was ashburton that is under-grounding services (Power and maybe telecommunications) on main roads as it reduces the chances of someone in a car hitting them and causing damage to the network.

South Canterbury also gets hit by snow and there have been a number of problems last winter. I'd think that might be driving the issue too.

Yep - the house we had in a 60's suburb of Ashburton had all services below ground - no wires hanging between poles made the streets a lot more attractive. And that was 10 years ago.

I'm pretty sure snow was the driver for the power services to go below ground.

Whereas North America and much of Europe deploy services overhead with the argument being that general work and repair costs are so much higher with underground networks!

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#1324001 13-Jun-2015 12:48

Body Corporates are particularly bad in buildings with a large number of absentee owners (particularly overseas) who only ever bought as an investment, all they care about is that there are tenants paying rent. The owners give their proxy vote to their property manager who in turn votes against anything that would cost money. Often these managers control the body corporate by having between 50 - 75% of the vote.

When I moved into a new apartment in the early 2000s the TV reception was terrible. The BC waited so long the building defect warranty expired so couldnt get it fixed for free. The cost to repair was $2000 across 132 apartments and the majority voted against it so it still wasnt fixed when I moved out. A higher proportion of owner occupiers would change this, but due to the very poor quality of most auckland apartments this is uncommon other than buildings like Quay West and Metropolis.

I wanted to install an air conditioner in my apartment due to living across the road from noisy student accomodation. The body corporate refused that on the basis that if I got one, everyone would want one. Again, ridiculous because most apartments in Auckland have very poor airflow and are like saunas in summer.

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#1325723 16-Jun-2015 13:03

sbiddle:
keewee01:
DonGould:
Jase2985: i think it was ashburton that is under-grounding services (Power and maybe telecommunications) on main roads as it reduces the chances of someone in a car hitting them and causing damage to the network.

South Canterbury also gets hit by snow and there have been a number of problems last winter. I'd think that might be driving the issue too.

Yep - the house we had in a 60's suburb of Ashburton had all services below ground - no wires hanging between poles made the streets a lot more attractive. And that was 10 years ago.

I'm pretty sure snow was the driver for the power services to go below ground.

Whereas North America and much of Europe deploy services overhead with the argument being that general work and repair costs are so much higher with underground networks!

Maybe I'm crazy but have they ever though of having a single access tunnel where all cables are threaded through and that a maintenance person can walk through and fix it up kind of like a giant storm water drain? I can't help but get the feeling that these things weren't fully through through when originally they were put underground.

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#1325734 16-Jun-2015 13:21

Tunnelling cost would be huge compared to thrusting or trenching. Would need constant maintanance to keep waterproof, access coordination etc

THere are service tunnels in large cities that date back to steam pipes etc, but noway near as vast as the movies would let you believe.

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#1325806 16-Jun-2015 14:48

kawaii: Maybe I'm crazy but have they ever though of having a single access tunnel where all cables are threaded through and that a maintenance person can walk through and fix it up kind of like a giant storm water drain? I can't help but get the feeling that these things weren't fully through through when originally they were put underground.

Shared ducting is done in parts of Australia but there is always concern about impact on competitive networks. The real problem is who pays for damage that running a new cable might have on one that's already there but on its last legs? If you just didn't touch the existing cable it might have been fine for years to come. It is a complex question and very reasonable to ask.

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