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Topic # 66209 14-Aug-2010 15:39
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anyone have any details on this?

 

from Stuff:

"A small Palmerston North company has created a device that will make broadband internet more than 50 times faster without having to pay hundreds of dollars installing fibre-optic cables.

The system looks like a modem, and connects with homes' existing wiring to boost broadband speeds without having to pay the $800-plus fee for re-wiring a home with fibre-optic cables to get such fast internet."

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  Reply # 367585 14-Aug-2010 15:55
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50 times faster, that's the same figure that software compression got when it was used to accelerate dialup connections.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/4025300/Kiwi-device-to-make-broadband-50X-faster

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  Reply # 367593 14-Aug-2010 16:29
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It's the SDP (service delivery point) that Chorus are rolling out. The Stuff story is exceptionally poorly journalism and it's obvious the author actually knows nothing at all about the product.

A photo of the hardware is in this NZ Herald story

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/connect/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501833&objectid=10650104


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  Reply # 367596 14-Aug-2010 16:34
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I believe it's 50 times faster WITHIN  YOUR HOUSE. The device appears to be about boosting the speed over your existing internal wiring, as an alternative to having to run new fibre or ethernet cables to get some hypothetical superfast broadband from the point where it enters your house to your computers and media devices and stuff.

It does not improve the speed between your house and the rest of the world.

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  Reply # 367599 14-Aug-2010 16:38
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Yep a little bit, this has been in development for /with Chorus with a number of uses and products that will be brought out for users and consumers of wholesale product offerings.

Saw the unit a couple of months back when it was demoed.

We had been in discussion with Telecom and Chorus over the options for replacement PSU / battery replacements with FTTH for quite some time, now the unit decision we had no say in or even knew what options they where going with, we contributed opinions only. We were not happy with the current offering and to be fair neither where Chorus and Telecom a better option is required and this is the option it looks like they are coming to market with.

This unit doesn't cover all the bases and we are having this discussion over on another thread

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=95&topicid=66118&page_no=2


And the good old one to throw out there again from the article in the Herald sbiddle linked this cost is still around 2k, when we think about CFH and the Governments FTTH plans it doesn't cover this part... Not saying the baby's ugly but right now it's not the pretties pig at the picnic when you consider the amount of Tax dollars going into this...

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  Reply # 367626 14-Aug-2010 17:58
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Man is that a bad article or what.

So from what I can work out, this "50x faster device" is effectively a bridge point between your Fibre Optic (which has been magically laid to your door) and your existing internal phone wiring, and it's got some batteries in it to keep the phones running when the power goes out, since you can't exactly send power down fibre optics like happens over the copper.

So the 50x faster is actually "this allows you to more easily connect to fibre, which is like 50x faster, of course, it's very unlikely you have fibre in which case this is of no use to you at all".

Jeez, I can imagine the help desks at ISP's are going to be inundated with "I want to get one of those 50 times faster boxes" type calls.





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  Reply # 367630 14-Aug-2010 18:25
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It's not just for FTTH deployments - it also contains a VDSL splitter so can be used in place of an existing central splitter.

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  Reply # 367634 14-Aug-2010 18:35
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sbiddle: It's not just for FTTH deployments - it also contains a VDSL splitter so can be used in place of an existing central splitter.


To what advantage? 




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  Reply # 367674 14-Aug-2010 21:38
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sleemanj:
sbiddle: It's not just for FTTH deployments - it also contains a VDSL splitter so can be used in place of an existing central splitter.


To what advantage? 


its a VDSL splitter with batteries!

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not a verry useful device AT THE MOMENT, but in the near future when everyone has fibre instead of copper wires going into their houses this will actually be of some use.





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  Reply # 367675 14-Aug-2010 21:46
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50x faster than ... ROFL

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  Reply # 367688 14-Aug-2010 22:40
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wow does stuff's articles just keep giving don't they.

looks very inaccurate.




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  Reply # 367693 14-Aug-2010 22:56
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hamish225:

not a verry useful device AT THE MOMENT, but in the near future when everyone has fibre instead of copper wires going into their houses this will actually be of some use.


It's totally relevent right now - that's why it has a VDSL splitter in it.

My understanding was these were going to be deployed initially to every customer who was going to be on the initial 17000 home Telecom VoIP rollout, but that is obviously still up in the air right now.


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  Reply # 367697 14-Aug-2010 23:30
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sbiddle:
hamish225:

not a verry useful device AT THE MOMENT, but in the near future when everyone has fibre instead of copper wires going into their houses this will actually be of some use.


It's totally relevent right now - that's why it has a VDSL splitter in it.

My understanding was these were going to be deployed initially to every customer who was going to be on the initial 17000 home Telecom VoIP rollout, but that is obviously still up in the air right now.



so would that mean that everyone who is on that trial fibre system in new subdivisions has one? 





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  Reply # 367724 15-Aug-2010 06:21
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hamish225:
sbiddle:
hamish225:

not a verry useful device AT THE MOMENT, but in the near future when everyone has fibre instead of copper wires going into their houses this will actually be of some use.


It's totally relevent right now - that's why it has a VDSL splitter in it.

My understanding was these were going to be deployed initially to every customer who was going to be on the initial 17000 home Telecom VoIP rollout, but that is obviously still up in the air right now.



so would that mean that everyone who is on that trial fibre system in new subdivisions has one? 


Not at the moment, the plan is to retro fit the current UPS as per the discussion here.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=95&topicid=66118&page_no=2

Also the product is relevant now for people wanting to upgrade their internal wiring there have been a number of threads about the performance of DSL and how the internal wiring is a big factor in your DSL performance,




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  Reply # 367841 15-Aug-2010 14:52
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Think of this a different way.

All the new houses have cat5 running through them. Old houses dont.
So when fibre to the home comes into an old house, how do you get the fibre signal (triple play telephone, tv and broadband) from the garage or demarc, to the new decoder in the lounge, the computer and the telephones?

Wifi for the computers
Voip ATA for the telephone wiring in the house
And the telephone wiring itself for the decoder using a high spee (40mbit +) VDSL 2 box over the same wiring that currently carries the telephone.

Now there is no need to urgently rewire with cat5 if your house is 40 years old.




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  Reply # 367843 15-Aug-2010 14:55
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so, how do i tell what kind of wiring my house has? our house is 14 years old, would i have good wiring?





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