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JohnButt

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#90850 30-Sep-2011 23:06
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Snap, Xtra and WorldXchange perform equal best in this speedtest comparison, which shows the performance of ISPs by time of day.  Slingshot and Vodafone need to improve.

Your internet connection's download speed (Speedtest) is important as it affects your viewing experience when watching videos.  Truenet performed Speedtest measurements throughout September, and found that some ISPs are probably short of capacity at peak periods.  Last time we reported that average Speedtest is independent of ISP, it being more dependent on the technology being used eg: ADSL, cable etc.  But when we drill down and look at how fast each ISP is delivering files during peak periods we find big differences in their performance.

Ideally, ISPs should be able to deliver the same speed at all times of day, otherwise when everybody wants to use the internet at times like noon or 8pm, performance will be slow and often too slow to watch video or use skype.

The following chart shows the performance as a percentage of the maximum Speedtest for each ISP for September. The chart is shown to demonstrate the range of speeds by Time of Day for each ISP.

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Slingshot and Maxnet show large speedtest variations. Slingshot slows during early morning when their free off-peak period creates high demand and again in the evening peak when they slow down significantly. Maxnet speeds drop dramatically in the middle of the day, demonstrating their customer base is mostly business and they do not appear to have enough capacity for the lunchtime peak.

TrueNet prepared the following chart to provide a ranking.  In this chart the longer the line the better.  We included the same data as measured in December 2010 (the red line). Note, not all ISPs were measured in December when we were just starting measurements. 
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 Snap, Xtra and WorldXchange are equal best with their minimum Speedtest result being 95% of their maximum result. 

One very big change is the improvement of WorldXchange.  From being dead last in December, they measured equal best in September.  

TelstraClear, which TrueNet announced a couple of weeks ago as having the fastest browsing experience, is now midpoint in this comparison having improved significantly in the last 9 months.

Some ISPs have a limited number of probes, and we have eliminated them from the Time of Day chart.  However, we have included them in the range chart because this measure is reliable on a single probe, where the result still represents over 500 measures per probe.
  

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  #527970 1-Oct-2011 10:58
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Guys this is the reason we need to get behind TrueNet.

It's metrics like this that John can put out, that in turn help the business managers in the ISPs to justify to their bosses why they need to add more capacity to things.

So if you know someone you could give a probe to, and it's in an area that John's looking for, see if you can make the connection.

Also pass this information around your non geek friends as much as you can. Pictures speak volumes.

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  #527990 1-Oct-2011 12:40
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This is really interesting - although possibly confirming what people already know.

Really glad to see the improvement Telstra has made as i am considering switching with their new ADSL plans.

Thanks for the great post.

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  #527993 1-Oct-2011 12:51
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While those stats are great (and show real world results) to draw any real analysis or assumptions from them you need to really know if the connections are EUBA based or not.

I'd pick the significant gains to WxC for example would have been helped by the bulk migration to EUBA, and results for other ISP's could be artificially skewed if they have users on older UBA connections. With no actual handover dimensioning of EUBA connections at present speeds are limited solely by the ISP's handover. Users on old UBA plans will have 45kbps dimensioning on handover which will create bottlenecks at certain times of the day, hence the reason EUBA's ethernet handover is now the norm for ISP's.





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  #528006 1-Oct-2011 13:29
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jbard: This is really interesting - although possibly confirming what people already know.


Yes...  It's always helpful to the business guys trying to persuade bosses to sign off on more capacity when they can point to something solid.

Most guys want to buy and install more capacity all the time.  Most guys want to give their customers better deals on capacity.  But it's really hard to sign off on 'pure speculation'.






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Question for John:

This is based on the 300KB download file transfer test right, is that also downloaded from Trademe servers like the browsing test?

Assuming the file transfer test done by the Truenet devices is national, it would be fascinating to see the same graph for international file transfers.



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  #528122 1-Oct-2011 23:48
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I have got one of these probes at my place, and would be interested to see this sort of info in my own graphs page, but did try and get the parents to take up a Truenet Router but got a "Ah no, we don't need it" response.




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  #528155 2-Oct-2011 08:45
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the published result on maxnet is really interesting. i have been a loyal customer for the last 2 years. i found that their speed is getting worst this year compared to last year. from 9am - 11pm, it is so bad that i cant use youtube without buffering every 5 secs or play online game (super high latency).

from 11pm or over the weekend, the speed is excellent and i can host online games or watching youtube at 1080p. time for change!!!  

 
 
 

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Thanks for the support guys, we believe that benchmarking like this is the way to encourage improvements with ALL ISP performances.  Improvements you see in some ISP performances should be a feature of these reports, while some may be down this month I would expect them to be up soon after.  Benchmarking will improve competition.

Here are some answers to your questions:
jbard - TelstraClear are very keen on benchmarking, wanting to be at the top, hopefully they keep up the momentum.  They are keen on our results however, publishing a flier today quoting our webpage download results:

Relevant part of TelstraClear Promo

Time of day performance of TelstraClear is less than stellar in our latest article though, maybe they should be focussing on improvements there, had they used our data, they may have already fixed any issues.

sbiddle - EUBA and UBA services are not only not marked, but due to the delays in getting connections changed from bitstream to LLU, there is no simple way to know what a connection is.  Interestingly, the raw data for known LLU connections does show significant differences, but that will require a lot more analysis to identify the status of each probe.

DonGould - yes I am aware some ISP technical people are using our published data to justify spend to their managers.  Their best solution will be when they use the underlying data and are able to demonstrate to their managers the detailed benchmark.

Ragnor - yes this is a similar test, we do a file and a webpage download from the trademe servers on an hourly basis.  We also do the same with the same files from an international server, we will publish that in the near future.

nakedmolerat - Good to hear anecdotal evidence of our measurements.  Maxnet are showing sudden and strong interest in TrueNet results, so you may see some quick changes - that is the best result from our perspective.

 

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There are some results on here that I would say are a bit skewed in one way or another, but all round its good data, and more testers is only going to help improve this.

Would be nice to see a box plot of the minimum/maximum/interquartile ranges for each ISP.

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  #528363 3-Oct-2011 00:06
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Things are going to get really interesting over the next few weeks as Telecom wholesale implements per user dimensions on EUBA as there have been on BUBA for years. This will re-level the playing field.

There are quite a few ISPs listed above which were suffering horribly under the old per user dimensions on BUBA which moved their users on EUBA as quickly as possible for a quick fix.

I know for one that Maxnet currently only has select customers on EUBA and have not yet moved their whole user base over which is the reason for the mid day crunch as seen in the graphs above. The bandwidth is there upstream of the handovers.



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insane: Things are going to get really interesting over the next few weeks as Telecom wholesale implements per user dimensions on EUBA as there have been on BUBA for years. This will re-level the playing field.

There are quite a few ISPs listed above which were suffering horribly under the old per user dimensions on BUBA which moved their users on EUBA as quickly as possible for a quick fix.

I know for one that Maxnet currently only has select customers on EUBA and have not yet moved their whole user base over which is the reason for the mid day crunch as seen in the graphs above. The bandwidth is there upstream of the handovers.




What does all this mean?

EUBA per user hand over?  My understanding of the BUBA hand over was that it was 45k per user, but consolidated across your pool of users and was fairly soft for some providers.

What dimensions are EUBA getting?

Also can you buy more hand over like providers in Australia can?






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  #528400 3-Oct-2011 08:42
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EUBA offered ethernet handover, and since it launched has offered no per user dimensioning, the only limitation because the number of users over a single handover. This means that there are some ISP's out there offering ~300kbps per user.

ISP's can choose the per user dimensioning they want to offer, with a number of different options available - this has nothing to do with ISP's buying more "handover".


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Thanks Steve, still quite confused.

Are you saying the ISP can buy a 100mbit, 1Gb, 10Gb or 40Gb hand over and then just tell telecom how much CIR and BIR to allocate to each individual user? (What exactly do you mean by 'per user dimensioning'?)

Also, 'ethernet handover' compared with what? ATM?





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It would be good to replace "Xtra" with "Telecom" seeing the former is a brand no longer in use really.




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insane: Things are going to get really interesting over the next few weeks as Telecom wholesale implements per user dimensions on EUBA as there have been on BUBA for years. This will re-level the playing field.

There are quite a few ISPs listed above which were suffering horribly under the old per user dimensions on BUBA which moved their users on EUBA as quickly as possible for a quick fix.

I know for one that Maxnet currently only has select customers on EUBA and have not yet moved their whole user base over which is the reason for the mid day crunch as seen in the graphs above. The bandwidth is there upstream of the handovers.



Seems like it's been delayed a number of times.  Given Telecom retail has to use the same wholesale services as every one else will it ever happen?

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