4 bay NAS filled with these could be fun :)
http://www.zdnet.com/article/seagate-unveils-worlds-largest-consumer-hard-drive/
I'm paranoid as it is using 2TB drives, would hate to lose 10TB of data :D
4 bay NAS filled with these could be fun :)
http://www.zdnet.com/article/seagate-unveils-worlds-largest-consumer-hard-drive/
I'm paranoid as it is using 2TB drives, would hate to lose 10TB of data :D
Gavin / xpd / FastRaccoon / Geek of Coastguard New Zealand
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I don't think I quite need this yet; I have a pair of 6 TB drives at the moment and haven't managed to fill them :)
The bigger they make the drives the bigger the incentive is to buy two ( or more) ( preferrably from different batches or vendors) to ensure you always have a live backup...
seagate, no thanks. havent touched one since their 1.5TB screw up, that lost me all my data in my drobo.
10TB would be nice though... but yeah... lots of data to loose unless you had it in a RAID, but pricey then
Samsung has a 16TB SSD, fill your NAS with these ;-)
xpd:
4 bay NAS filled with these could be fun :)
http://www.zdnet.com/article/seagate-unveils-worlds-largest-consumer-hard-drive/
I'm paranoid as it is using 2TB drives, would hate to lose 10TB of data :D
Paranoia is normal.
All hard drives will fail, given enough time.
The whole point of RAID is to prevent data loss when one (or two) drives fail.
With RAID the size of the individual HDDs becomes almost irrelevant.
/lecture
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The whole point of RAID is to prevent data loss when one (or two) drives fail.
With RAID the size of the individual HDDs becomes almost irrelevant.
Until you're waiting for your array to rebuild...
meesham:
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The whole point of RAID is to prevent data loss when one (or two) drives fail.
With RAID the size of the individual HDDs becomes almost irrelevant.
Until you're waiting for your array to rebuild ...
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I'm waiting for mine to rebuild, right now.
I estimate that it will take 3 days (8 x 8TB WD Reds, RAID 10)
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I'm waiting for mine to rebuild, right now.
I estimate that it will take 3 days (8 x 8TB WD Reds, RAID 10)
Time to get out the emergency Valium!
meesham:
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I'm waiting for mine to rebuild, right now.
I estimate that it will take 3 days (8 x 8TB WD Reds, RAID 10)
Time to get out the emergency Valium!
Id be hitting the Jagermeister........ that way if it fails to rebuild, the shock wont be so great :)
Gavin / xpd / FastRaccoon / Geek of Coastguard New Zealand
meesham:
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I'm waiting for mine to rebuild, right now.
I estimate that it will take 3 days (8 x 8TB WD Reds, RAID 10)
Time to get out the emergency Valium!
I'm quite relaxed about it - the whole array is backed up.
from 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
[on Dave's return to the ship, after HAL has killed the rest of the crew]
HAL: Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.
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reven:
seagate, no thanks. havent touched one since their 1.5TB screw up, that lost me all my data in my drobo.
10TB would be nice though... but yeah... lots of data to loose unless you had it in a RAID, but pricey then
Yep, around 2010 model? I had purchased 4 of these dodgy seagates and they all failed... then, the warranty replacements, all failed.
I think seagate sorted their act out since then.
The WD green drives are terrible (the power saving features don't play well with many controller chips), so I have switched back to seagate .
I've not had a seagate failure for a couple of years now, touch wood.
I only buy drives in pairs now (one backup), single drives are too risky. While even a pair is not fail safe, a pair probably gives a 99% improvement in data safety.
I've had drives fail on both sides. With the WD green drives especially, but since I lost a couple of those I do the WDIDLE thing.
What's working out for me is regular replacement. I'm always running out of room on my HTPC and I have maxed out the number of internal drives.
So it's a case of replacing the oldest one with the larger capacity from time to time.
10TB would be great but the price point isn't at US$470 for the NAS version. Seagate and WD do 8TB external drives for US$250, I'd rather crack one of those open as my next drive.
Apparently some of the WD 8TB External drives have Hitachi drives inside them.
I've got a mix of drives in my basic home server box, 1-2TB WD and Seagate..... I run HDSentinel occasionally to try and pre-empt any failures but have had both brands fail in the past. Seems to be the year that WD models go well, Seagates fail, and vice versa. I do need to look at some new drives soon though, fed up with spreading data across multiple drives, but terrified of the off-chance that the one big drive I do buy fails and I lose everything (not personal data, thats backed up multiple locations) - more frustrating to get all the data back again.
Gavin / xpd / FastRaccoon / Geek of Coastguard New Zealand
xpd:
I've got a mix of drives in my basic home server box, 1-2TB WD and Seagate..... I run HDSentinel occasionally to try and pre-empt any failures but have had both brands fail in the past. Seems to be the year that WD models go well, Seagates fail, and vice versa. I do need to look at some new drives soon though, fed up with spreading data across multiple drives, but terrified of the off-chance that the one big drive I do buy fails and I lose everything (not personal data, thats backed up multiple locations) - more frustrating to get all the data back again.
Why not look at something like Driver Bender, that will JBOD and duplicate files across multiple drives.
The drives are still recoverable in a standard Win PC should something go AWOL with the array.
I still chug along with Windows Home server ver 1, which uses a similar technology - Drive Extender.
Has 4 drives, and have had to replace a couple of failing drives, as picked up by HD sentinel.
Remove drive from storage pool, swap out drive, add drive to storage pool. Wait for rebuild. Doesn't take too long.
Can still use the server during the rebuild process.
lurker:
10TB would be great but the price point isn't at US$470 for the NAS version. Seagate and WD do 8TB external drives for US$250, I'd rather crack one of those open as my next drive.
Apparently some of the WD 8TB External drives have Hitachi drives inside them.
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