How to get IPv6 for your desktop or laptop

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#63552 29-Jun-2010 18:43

Seeing that we now have Geekzone IPV6, I thought it would be good to post here how to get IPv6 connectivity.

The easiest way is to get an IPv6 connection from your ISP. There are very limited alternatives here at the moment, but WorldxChange is running a very limited trial. This will most likely require new modem/routers for connectivity.

Another easy way is using a tunnel, such as Gogo6. Just register and install the software. You will be assigned a dynamic IP address. If you register for their Freenet6 service then you can specific a username/password and be assigned a static IP address - and get to chose which node to connect to Sydney being the closes one would be faster).

There are other options, so feel free to post here.

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#346448 29-Jun-2010 19:21

Well, I wouldn't say the easiest way is via your ISP.
If your ISP does native V6, this more than likely involves buying a Cisco or something that does DD-WRT..

Simplest way is via a tunnel, like gogo6 or sixxs.net

I believe Orcon (and possibly slingshot? Not sure on that one) were looking at doing V6, but the problem is CPEs.. Orcon were trying to get firmwares for router/modems they sell.

There is a IPv6 list that people from ISPs post to occasionally.
http://mailman.internetnz.net.nz/mailman/listinfo/ipv6-techsig

(I see you've posted there Mauricio ;)

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#346451 29-Jun-2010 19:23

Also
kyhwana@bastet:~$ ping6 www.geekzone.co.nz
PING www.geekzone.co.nz(2405:6000:f:100::1:2) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2405:6000:f:100::1:2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=121 time=33.9 ms
64 bytes from 2405:6000:f:100::1:2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=121 time=31.1 ms
64 bytes from 2405:6000:f:100::1:2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=121 time=32.7 ms
64 bytes from 2405:6000:f:100::1:2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=121 time=33.1 ms

MTR:
1. 2001:e20:2000:xxx::x 0.0% 8 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.0
2. lo-1-xdsl-t-rex.ipv6.wxnz.net 0.0% 8 25.9 23.7 18.7 34.9 5.0
3. vrrp6-gw-xdsl.ipv6.wxnz.net 0.0% 8 23.8 20.4 17.1 23.8 2.6
4. wxnz1.wix.net.nz 0.0% 8 32.8 32.4 30.2 33.5 1.1
5. iconz1-ipv6.wix.net.nz 0.0% 7 32.6 38.7 28.7 79.0 17.9
6. 2405:6000:1:20::1 0.0% 7 33.2 32.4 30.9 33.7 1.1
7. 2405:6000:1:6::2 0.0% 7 34.1 31.4 25.9 34.8 3.3
8. 2405:6000:1:1d::3 0.0% 7 31.5 30.8 27.0 32.9 2.0
9. 2405:6000:f:100::1:2

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#346480 29-Jun-2010 20:43

So the question is - what happens if you don't update your router? I read that the internet is expected to run out of IPv4 addresses next year. Let's pretend that my ISP won't run out of addresses, because the customer numbers are pretty stable. Some device online has a IPv6 address (maybe a cellphone). Will I be able to contact it? When would it be expected that I will be running an IPv6 router? Next year? 5 years? Never?

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#346482 29-Jun-2010 20:47

Read this article: http://ipv6.com/articles/general/IPv6-The-Future-of-the-Internet.htm

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#346487 29-Jun-2010 21:16

The quickest and easiest way to get IPv6 is through a tunnel such as:

http://tunnelbroker.net/
http://broker.aarnet.net.au/
http://tb.ipv6.net.au/

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#346489 29-Jun-2010 21:22

Unleash also offers full IPv6 Support for all Customers and have done since 2008 :) - Even though the demand for it has only started this year. If you were a Unleash customer you will be given both a static IPv4 Address and a Static IPv6 Address.

Otherwise if you ain't with a ISP that offers IPv6 support your only option is to really use a Tunnel Broker. Since the addresses are likely to run out next year I find it quite bizarre that most ISP's ain't offering IPv6 yet, they simply rely on the amount of IP blocks they have bought to lend out.

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#346490 29-Jun-2010 21:23

I got my address from www.tunnelbroker.net and have set it up in my router (Apple AirPort Extreme N), which allows the computers on my network to get an IPv6 address without any additional software.

Here's how Apple's fields map to those in Tunnel Broker:
Remote IPv4 Address = Server IPv4 address
WAN IPv6 Address = Client IPv6 address (without the /64)
IPv6 Default Route = Server IPv6 address (without the /64)
LAN IPv6 Address = Routed /64 (without the /64)

There's also a bug in firmware 7.4.2 when using DHCP for IPv4. You'll need to set the IPv4 address manually or else the router won't assign IPv6 addresses. That had me totally stuck for a while! The bug has been fixed in 7.5 but it's not yet available for all devices. Apparently it also works if you downgrade to 7.3.1 but I haven't tried that.

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#346491 29-Jun-2010 21:23

michaelmurfy: Unleash also offers full IPv6 Support for all Customers and have done since 2008 :) - Even though the demand for it has only started this year. If you were a Unleash customer you will be given both a static IPv4 Address and a Static IPv6 Address.

I can't get to your website via IPv6??

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#346493 29-Jun-2010 21:26

wjw:
michaelmurfy: Unleash also offers full IPv6 Support for all Customers and have done since 2008 :) - Even though the demand for it has only started this year. If you were a Unleash customer you will be given both a static IPv4 Address and a Static IPv6 Address.

I can't get to your website via IPv6??

Erm, should be able to:

PING unleash.net.nz(2401:f000:32:c001::5) 32 data bytes
40 bytes from 2401:f000:32:c001::5: icmp_seq=0 ttl=51 time=287 ms
40 bytes from 2401:f000:32:c001::5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=286 ms
40 bytes from 2401:f000:32:c001::5: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=286 ms
40 bytes from 2401:f000:32:c001::5: icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=287 ms

--- unleash.net.nz ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3026ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 286.337/286.906/287.384/0.656 ms, pipe 2

I blame your Internet :P

kyhwana2

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#346501 29-Jun-2010 21:47

timestyles: So the question is - what happens if you don't update your router? I read that the internet is expected to run out of IPv4 addresses next year. Let's pretend that my ISP won't run out of addresses, because the customer numbers are pretty stable. Some device online has a IPv6 address (maybe a cellphone). Will I be able to contact it? When would it be expected that I will be running an IPv6 router? Next year? 5 years? Never?

IF you don't update your router, you don't get a IPv6 address.

Which means that you'll end up with a NATed IP address on your router's WAN side..
ie, you'll end up double NATed and anything that needs you to forward ports or does wackey NAT stuff won't work.

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#346513 29-Jun-2010 22:26

If your ISP is downstream of the FX Internet Backbone you will be able to get IPv6 (native). Your ISP may not necessarily have IPv6 implemented but there is nothing in the way of them doing so as far as upstream is concerned.

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#346529 29-Jun-2010 22:55

sorry for being such a nube but whats the real benefit of ipv6. I thought it was created because ip address (v4) were running out?

jmenz

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#346532 29-Jun-2010 23:11

I guess the benefit is continued reach of the Internet. Current forecasts have IPv4 running out around a year from now. It's perfectly fine to stay on v4. It's just that a decade from now what you'll be able to reach on v4 is roughly equivalent to what you could reach in 2011. Sites may well pop up on v6 only that you can't see. Email to folks you want to send to might be on v6 only. It's not the end of the world but I guess the best advice is get going on v6'ing now so you're not bloody annoyed in the future. The Internet will continue to grow - that's undeniable. And the future growth will be enabled by v6. V4 will still be around - sure. But the total Internet will need folks supporting both.

Here's another way of thinking of it. If the world is about to run out of oil, is it a good idea to look at, and understand alternative fuel cars?

Probably. Your mileage may vary.

jamie