Chorus ONT with 2 routers

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ajc153

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#2532337 31-Jul-2020 19:13

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Once it's reset the specific config no longer exists. It will simply be on defaults, on 192.168.1.1/24 conflicting with the Vodafone router. Your current problems most likely relate to fact that you have two DHCP servers operating on same network. If it is indeed connected via its LAN interface then it's not routing anyway and serves no purpose.

There is no vodafone router involved when the ubiquiti router is installed. I'm not using two routers at the same time.

I understand I lose the current settings but I can't get them without the password anyway.

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#2532381 31-Jul-2020 21:03

still sounds like you need assistance, in person.

ajc153

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#2532431 31-Jul-2020 21:18

Jase2985:
still sounds like you need assistance, in person.

I've done that. Hence the long list of work done.

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#2532459 31-Jul-2020 21:49

from someone who knows what they are doing with the kit you have

ajc153

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#2532556 1-Aug-2020 09:03

Ok result, I got the password, here is the show configuration from command line.

Anything odd?

firewall {

all-ping enable

broadcast-ping disable

ipv6-receive-redirects disable

ipv6-src-route disable

ip-src-route disable

log-martians enable

name WAN_IN {

default-action drop

description "WAN to internal"

rule 10 {

action accept

description "Allow established/related"

state {

established enable

related enable

}

rule 20 {

action drop

description "Drop invalid state"

state {

invalid enable

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#2532560 1-Aug-2020 09:29

Yes, most of the config is missing.

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ajc153

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#2532563 1-Aug-2020 09:39

Spyware:

Yes, most of the config is missing.

Agreed it looked light. Thats all the text from the show configuration command, is there another command I should have been using?

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#2532565 1-Aug-2020 09:40

That is two firewall rules - one to allow established and related traffic, and the other to block invalid packets. That's probably about 1/20th of what is required in the config to function as a router.

ajc153

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#2532566 1-Aug-2020 09:41

sbiddle:

That is two firewall rules - one to allow established and related traffic, and the other to block invalid packets. That's probably about 1/20th of what is required in the config to function as a router.

Was show configuration the wrong command to get the rest of the config?

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#2532573 1-Aug-2020 10:23

So as I guess you've probably gathered by now, EdgeRouters aren't really intended for greenhorns. They are absolutely not plug and play devices, and you need to have at least a basic understanding of networking concepts and bash/CLI commands to get much of anything out of them. I was only willing to even experiment with one because of the Geekzone safety net. Even then, I've parked mine for now and gone back to a more consumer-focused option.

Dialling it back to basics a bit, what are you actually trying to achieve?

I think you've mentioned a Vodafone router (which model?) that actually works fine with the Vodafone TV. Depending on the model, most people (including me and people hereabouts that know far more than I do) find that the Vodafone routers work really well at routing even at very high speeds, are straightforward to configure, and actually have the advantage of being supported by your ISP. Even if you get the EdgeRouter working, you will need to keep the VF one around since any time your internet goes down you will need to reinstall it for troubleshooting or you won't get past go with the CSRs.

The major limitations of Vodafone routers (and many other ISP routers) is the Wifi (completely separate to the routing bit of the router). However for you, wifi can be done by the access points - either ignore the wifi on the router or turn it off completely.

So unless there are advanced *routing* functions you need out of the EdgeRouter (VLANs? Custom DNS rules? Advanced firewall?), I would seriously be looking at just going with the Vodafone router and the Ubiquiti access points you've got. You will save yourself a whole lot of time and headache.

On the other hand, if you *want* to learn about networking and CLI commands, that's fantastic. But you should start with the intro tutorials on the Ubiquiti website. Or maybe try something like setting up a Raspberry Pi for yourself? Once you've got a bit more of a grounding in networking (especially SSH and PUTTY), you can maybe go back to the EdgeRouter then.

Or if your goal was to make the networking experts of this parish froth at the mouth and chew the furniture, well played / for shame. 😁

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#2532597 1-Aug-2020 11:20

Hi, once you go show configuration it will push out a screen full, you need to keep hitting the space bar to get the full config, then select all and copy.

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ajc153

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#2532609 1-Aug-2020 11:37

mdf:
So as I guess you've probably gathered by now, EdgeRouters aren't really intended for greenhorns. They are absolutely not plug and play devices, and you need to have at least a basic understanding of networking concepts and bash/CLI commands to get much of anything out of them. I was only willing to even experiment with one because of the Geekzone safety net. Even then, I've parked mine for now and gone back to a more consumer-focused option.

Dialling it back to basics a bit, what are you actually trying to achieve?

I think you've mentioned a Vodafone router (which model?) that actually works fine with the Vodafone TV. Depending on the model, most people (including me and people hereabouts that know far more than I do) find that the Vodafone routers work really well at routing even at very high speeds, are straightforward to configure, and actually have the advantage of being supported by your ISP. Even if you get the EdgeRouter working, you will need to keep the VF one around since any time your internet goes down you will need to reinstall it for troubleshooting or you won't get past go with the CSRs.

The major limitations of Vodafone routers (and many other ISP routers) is the Wifi (completely separate to the routing bit of the router). However for you, wifi can be done by the access points - either ignore the wifi on the router or turn it off completely.

So unless there are advanced *routing* functions you need out of the EdgeRouter (VLANs? Custom DNS rules? Advanced firewall?), I would seriously be looking at just going with the Vodafone router and the Ubiquiti access points you've got. You will save yourself a whole lot of time and headache.

On the other hand, if you *want* to learn about networking and CLI commands, that's fantastic. But you should start with the intro tutorials on the Ubiquiti website. Or maybe try something like setting up a Raspberry Pi for yourself? Once you've got a bit more of a grounding in networking (especially SSH and PUTTY), you can maybe go back to the EdgeRouter then.

Or if your goal was to make the networking experts of this parish froth at the mouth and chew the furniture, well played / for shame. 😁

Yup it certainly isn't plug and play. It was the router pbtech said I should use with the waps, when though i had the vodafone unit.

First priority getting stable vtv. Solved with the new vodafone router

Second getting wifi around and outside the house to devices. Solved with the waps connected to the vodafone router.

I could stop there however,

Third getting the ubiquiti edgerouter working in place of the vodafone router and upgrading the house security system to ubiquiti. Trying to get the devices in the same family.

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#2532627 1-Aug-2020 12:31

ajc153:

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Third getting the ubiquiti edgerouter working in place of the vodafone router and upgrading the house security system to ubiquiti. Trying to get the devices in the same family.

Understand where you're coming from here in theory, but you might need to do some more digging about compatibility to make sure you're not (further) disappointed at the end of a long and complicated process.

I am no expert on Ubiquiti (and others here may correct me) but as I understand it, there are two Ubiquiti families of devices that run different operating systems. If you want wireless access points, cameras and a router all managed from a single pane of glass, they need to be from the same family. I am fairly sure that the ERX runs one OS (EdgeOS), and the WAPs and cameras will likely be on another (UniOS / UniFi / UniFi Protect).

There is a bit of commentary at the moment about Ubiquiti deprecating one camera OS for another (see here)

I certainly understand the appeal of central management, but I don't find it to be a particular problem using different interfaces for different things. Once your network is set up, frankly you probably won't be fiddling with it that often anyway.

ajc153

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#2532644 1-Aug-2020 13:00

mdf:
ajc153:

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Third getting the ubiquiti edgerouter working in place of the vodafone router and upgrading the house security system to ubiquiti. Trying to get the devices in the same family.

Understand where you're coming from here in theory, but you might need to do some more digging about compatibility to make sure you're not (further) disappointed at the end of a long and complicated process.

I am no expert on Ubiquiti (and others here may correct me) but as I understand it, there are two Ubiquiti families of devices that run different operating systems. If you want wireless access points, cameras and a router all managed from a single pane of glass, they need to be from the same family. I am fairly sure that the ERX runs one OS (EdgeOS), and the WAPs and cameras will likely be on another (UniOS / UniFi / UniFi Protect).

There is a bit of commentary at the moment about Ubiquiti deprecating one camera OS for another (see here)

I certainly understand the appeal of central management, but I don't find it to be a particular problem using different interfaces for different things. Once your network is set up, frankly you probably won't be fiddling with it that often anyway.

I think you might be right, I can't seem to get this ubiquiti router working in the rest of my devices, even my waps just stopped working with it lol I guess I'll have to stick with the vodafone router and the waps as that's all working now and look for other camera options.

Thanks everyone.

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