Any advantage to combined modem/router?

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#268491 22-Mar-2020 09:38

I'm buying a new home WiFi/Ethernet router. I have a Spark 630b ISP modem serving that purpose.

The logical thing is connect 630b with WAN link to the new device. Easier for any ISP intervention required.

Unless there is an advantage to a late model combined modem/router device?

Edit: I have VDSL.

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#2443537 22-Mar-2020 10:11

Lack of clutter is the main advantage of having them combined. What are you trying to achieve with the upgrade?

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#2443539 22-Mar-2020 10:14

If the 630b is providing you with all you need then why change. If however you want more features then purhaps consider using the 630b in bridge mode, and purchase an edgerouter or if you are game a Mikrotik. And for wireless look into better solutions like a couple of UniFi or similar devices that are placed strategically in the house to gain better coverage, and a seemless 2.4-5G single SSID

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#2443545 22-Mar-2020 10:24

personally i'd resign and get the smart modem. overall the hg630 is actually a pretty solid device, but it's 100mbit ports and 2.4ghz wifi is kinda limiting these days.

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#2444720 23-Mar-2020 17:10

I moved to Spark less than a year ago. If sign again is possiible? I'll consider that.

Main reasons for new device are support of newest WiFi standards, peace of mind from an up to date device, device prioritization, maybe ability to run openwrt.

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#2446734 25-Mar-2020 22:49

I picked up one of these for the router side and openwrt

https://www.linksys.com/nz/p/P-WRT32X/

Supports Killer Networking. The Killer Networks adaptors seem pricey. I wonder if they are a little overblown and complex compared to wrt priority type features? I might be tempted as Ethernet will be slightly inconvenient for a little while yet. I chose it over built in DSL https://www.linksys.com/nz/p/P-XAC1900/ for the later wifi standard.

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#2446746 25-Mar-2020 23:25

If you read any of my posts on here you'll find that these "gaming routers" list features that are snakeoil. Killer is one of them. Along with "Tri-Stream AC3200" as you'll never achieve anything past standard Wireless AC speeds (~500Mbit) on this kind of router.

I've had laptops with Killer Wireless / Ethernet and it was really annoying - did nothing to improve anything, it just made things worse. I personally ended up switching out the wireless card in each one of these laptops to one with a standard Intel chipset as it simply performed better.

The price of this router wasn't that bad but to be perfectly honest I would have gone the route that @hio77 suggested and picked up a Spark Smart Router instead. It is a great router, will actually beat this one with performance and could have potentially been of zero cost to you. As I've said multiple times - Netgear, Linksys, Asus have all offered me routers to test with (while asking how I would test them). As soon as they found out I was doing a technical, non-bias test they pulled their offer and have not since contacted me. Every other manufacturer even including D-Link have allowed me to test routers this way and have taken notes when either the router was just garbage (of which I never bothered with a review) or under-performed and solved it by working with me with firmware updates (big kudos to Cambium for this one).

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#2446923 26-Mar-2020 11:03

I really appreciate the advice. I intended to re-sign in any case and get the new spark modem as well.

Is there any openwrt capable device you recommend in a similar price bracket to the 32x?

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#2447185 26-Mar-2020 14:23

The question is what features are you really wanting from OpenWRT that you can’t do on any other router?

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#2447242 26-Mar-2020 15:01

New vulnerability detected in OpenWRT today too:

https://amp.thehackernews.com/thn/2020/03/openwrt-rce-vulnerability.html

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#2447547 26-Mar-2020 20:50

michaelmurfy: The question is what features are you really wanting from OpenWRT that you can’t do on any other router?

I had my eye on SQM. https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/traffic-shaping/sqm I'm on VDSL for a while yet.

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#2447550 26-Mar-2020 20:57

mdf: New vulnerability detected in OpenWRT today too:

https://amp.thehackernews.com/thn/2020/03/openwrt-rce-vulnerability.html

This is resolved. It required mitm to succeed. Greater concern running a non-combined device ; ).