Configuration of Hauwei DN8245X6-10 for FibreMax One NZ

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Saap286

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#319258 7-Apr-2025 07:30

Greetings all,

I have a DN8245X6-10, and mitigated from a 300/100 to a 900/500 fibre with OneNZ.

The 900/500 is quite variable in speed but I never get more than 700/400. And on on 5G. 2.4G is awful - worse than the 300/100 for dl.

Been onto tech support. One person said its modem/router ie the DN8245X6-10 - I was told I need a new router (their Deco X50 or something), another said the DN8245X6-10 was a good modem/router, and should be able to put through the full speed without issue.

Apparently its showing full speed at their end.

Anyone able to share some tips on set up? Perhaps something needs tweaking? I bought the DN8245X6-10 off OneNZ a year ago - rather regret not just buying my own modem / router then.

Any suggestions for a good modem/router that has good speed, goo range - but won't break the bank?

Thanks for helping out a non techy person.

Cheers

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#3361496 7-Apr-2025 07:43

It's not the DN8 at fault, the DN8 will do a gig just fine on wired.

Wifi specs are 160mhz 2x2 on 5ghz.

You can try:

Separating the 2.4 and 5ghz ssids to disable band steering, some devices don't like this.

Where are you also testing as well and how?

The X53 is "simpler" and is current and is more up to date then the DN8 but they both perform the same...

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#3361505 7-Apr-2025 08:42

If you want full speed then run cable. You've simply discovered normal behaviour for wifi. Why would you need gigabit speeds over wifi anyway??

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#3361524 7-Apr-2025 09:44

MaxineN:
It's not the DN8 at fault, the DN8 will do a gig just fine on wired.

Wifi specs are 160mhz 2x2 on 5ghz.

You can try:

Separating the 2.4 and 5ghz ssids to disable band steering, some devices don't like this.

Where are you also testing as well and how?

The X53 is "simpler" and is current and is more up to date then the DN8 but they both perform the same...

Hi Max

Good morning.

I was rather hoping you would see this and jump in, after your last really helpful advice re porting to Kogan.

Great. Thought it was a 1GB modem / router.

Have separated the 2.4 and 5 bands.

Testing with MBA (OSX 15.4 wi fi) has been all over the house: from sitting right next to the DN8, to our bedrooms & garage (small house so not that far away) to outside in the garden (loses wi fi around 20-25 m away).

Fastest next to the DN8, slowest in the bedrooms/outside.
5GHz usually 650-680,
2.4GHz usually 170-200.

Odd.

Not really up for spending the money of a Deco etc. Had a Deco mesh system in Tassie in a larger house and didn't love it.

I'm not complaining too much - 660 is double the speed of the 300/100 after all. Be nice to know what 900 felt like though.

PS - how does one stay logged into Geekzone? It is always logging me out before I type an answer.

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#3361526 7-Apr-2025 09:49

Saap286:

Hi Max

Good morning.

I was rather hoping you would see this and jump in, after your last really helpful advice re porting to Kogan.

Great. Thought it was a 1GB modem / router.

Have separated the 2.4 and 5 bands.

Testing with MBA (OSX 15.4 wi fi) has been all over the house: from sitting right next to the DN8, to our bedrooms & garage (small house so not that far away) to outside in the garden (loses wi fi around 20-25 m away).

Fastest next to the DN8, slowest in the bedrooms/outside.
5GHz usually 650-680,
2.4GHz usually 170-200.

Odd.

Not really up for spending the money of a Deco etc. Had a Deco mesh system in Tassie in a larger house and didn't love it.

I'm not complaining too much - 660 is double the speed of the 300/100 after all. Be nice to know what 900 felt like though.

PS - how does one stay logged into Geekzone? It is always logging me out before I type an answer.

Make sure this is checked (you'll need to log out and log back in).

If you only have a 80mhz 2x2 client (aka the MBA) that is the best you'll get. You need a 160mhz 2x2 client to see line speed within a reasonable distance and without any walls in place.

Swapping it to a X53 will make no difference as you've hit the limitations of your current client/devices.

You will not see the need (or even feel it) for gig speeds unless you're downloading something very large and you want it faster, or you regularly hit peak speeds of 300mbps and excess.

Most users do not need a gig. And I used to shy customers away from this because they really didn't need it, and would only raise tickets because they can't see it over WiFi (as their gear was not up to snuff).

edit: I should note ALL CPE's from One NZ from the HG659 to the UH to the DN8 to the X53 will do a gig via wired just fine. WiFi does vary from all of the above models except the DN8 and the X53. The only benefit the X53 has is yes it's a deco, you can get the X50s and have a big WiFi mesh network that's simple.

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#3361527 7-Apr-2025 09:50

Spyware:
If you want full speed then run cable. You've simply discovered normal behaviour for wifi. Why would you need gigabit speeds over wifi anyway??

By cable you mean Ethernet?

I didn't know that MBA Silicon with 15.4 can't accept >1GB speeds and Routers can't send them.

Why am I'm after 900Mbps over wi fi?

I only use a laptop or phone.

I don't use ethernet.

And...not being a smart arse - why not? its would be fun to know what that speed felt like.

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#3361547 7-Apr-2025 10:08

Make sure this is checked (you'll need to log out and log back in).

If you only have a 80mhz 2x2 client (aka the MBA) that is the best you'll get. You need a 160mhz 2x2 client to see line speed within a reasonable distance and without any walls in place.

Swapping it to a X53 will make no difference as you've hit the limitations of your current client/devices.

You will not see the need (or even feel it) for gig speeds unless you're downloading something very large and you want it faster, or you regularly hit peak speeds of 300mbps and excess.

Most users do not need a gig. And I used to shy customers away from this because they really didn't need it, and would only raise tickets because they can't see it over WiFi (as their gear was not up to snuff).

edit: I should note ALL CPE's from One NZ from the HG659 to the UH to the DN8 to the X53 will do a gig via wired just fine. WiFi does vary from all of the above models except the DN8 and the X53. The only benefit the X53 has is yes it's a deco, you can get the X50s and have a big WiFi mesh network that's simple.

1. D'oh...(good boomer reference for you lol)

2. Don't know what a 80mhz 2x2 client is - but am assuming that would be my MBA Silicon 1 then?

Being Apple based - any of the latest laptops suitable? About time I upgraded anyway.

3. Thank you re swapping to another modem/router.

4. Assume I download large files, and I regularly hit whatever peak speed I have on my plan. Agree in browsing makes no difference - bit snappier with upload I suppose. Oddly makes most UK based streaming Apps much less laggy.

5. Yeah - the raising ticket person would be me :) - sausages. Thanks for putting me right.

6. Mesh is abit of a meh for me - our house here is 120m2 + garage. Our place in Tassie is twice that. Can't be bothered running a mesh.

Sounds like the easiest solution is to buy a USB -Ethernet adapter and just plug that in when I'm after max speeds. Or buy something that can do it.

By the way - does geekzone have a version where all the "
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#3361548 7-Apr-2025 10:09

Saap286:

By cable you mean Ethernet?

I didn't know that MBA Silicon with 15.4 can't accept >1GB speeds and Routers can't send them.

A MBA Silicon should be able to get 1GB speeds with a USBC-Ethernet adapter, the problem with WiFi is honestly that things are far too variable to achieve reliable line speed at all time. If you're in an urban area, your WiFi will share airtime with all your neighbours, and while you can try and optimise exactly which bands are used at a point of time, a lot of WiFi access points/routers are configured to automatically scan and adjust, so what works one day, might be congested the next. You'll never see an ISP guarantee speeds over WiFi, and one of the common debugging steps for speed issues is "have you tried with a wired connection?".

Edit: Also forgot to add in about house design (walls/etc) can impact WiFi speeds greatly, especially if certain construction materials were used.

Why am I'm after 900Mbps over wi fi?

I only use a laptop or phone.

I don't use ethernet.

And...not being a smart arse - why not? its would be fun to know what that speed felt like.

Unless you're regularly trying to pull large chunks of data (thinking things like graphic design, video files for editing), if it's just a single laptop + mobile + potentially a TV for streaming, a lower plan will suit just fine, and save a few dollars.

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#3361549 7-Apr-2025 10:15

When I mention 80mhz or 160mhz I am referring to the channel width. This is how wide your channel is, bigger = faster, but bigger also means more prone to interference.

https://support.apple.com/en-nz/guide/deployment/dep268652e6c/web from the big apple itself.

Yep your Macbook Air M1 will NEVER see anything beyond 700mbps as we are now hitting the real limits. 1200mbps is a theoretical, not accounting for overhead, distance, RF interference, AP capability and how your client (the device you're using) is designed and built.

You will need to upgrade your client and ensure it can do HE160mhz in order to go past 700mbps.

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#3361563 7-Apr-2025 10:44

Saap286:

By cable you mean Ethernet?

And...not being a smart arse - why not? its would be fun to know what that speed felt like.

5 GHz radio failed in my Unifi U6-Pro so using 2.4 GHz 20 MHz, 70/30, for streaming to iPad and phone. I don't notice any difference. Computers and all TVs etc all have cat6 run.

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#3361567 7-Apr-2025 10:53

That's great Max - now I get it. Thank you.

My MBA is a M1 2020 - so getting to a point it could do with being replaced.

It is most definitely 80Mhz.

I see all MBA's / MBP's are limited to 80Mhz other than ax@6 (whatever that is) - which I assume needs both a modem/ router that supports ax@6 and a client (2024 M3) to receive it.

Bit easier to buy an USBC - Ethernet adapter.

Don't suppose there is a Wi Fi dongle out there which has 160 MHz capacity? - be sure handy not to be physically tethered near the DN-8.

Even if it exists - I guess it wouldn't work unless you had a router that supported 160MHz.

Just kicking the ball around now by the way. Adapter will be the way to go.

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#3361569 7-Apr-2025 10:55

A MBA Silicon should be able to get 1GB speeds with a USBC-Ethernet adapter, the problem with WiFi is honestly that things are far too variable to achieve reliable line speed at all time. If you're in an urban area, your WiFi will share airtime with all your neighbours, and while you can try and optimise exactly which bands are used at a point of time, a lot of WiFi access points/routers are configured to automatically scan and adjust, so what works one day, might be congested the next. You'll never see an ISP guarantee speeds over WiFi, and one of the common debugging steps for speed issues is "have you tried with a wired connection?".

Edit: Also forgot to add in about house design (walls/etc) can impact WiFi speeds greatly, especially if certain construction materials were used.

Thank you!

Unless you're regularly trying to pull large chunks of data (thinking things like graphic design, video files for editing), if it's just a single laptop + mobile + potentially a TV for streaming, a lower plan will suit just fine, and save a few dollars.

Thanks - yes I agree. But I do pull large chunks of data. Cost is an extra $15 a month. Worth it too me.

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#3361571 7-Apr-2025 11:02

Haven't really got the hang of putting the BBCode in, so sorry for that.

@Spyware - thanks for your reply. First bit over my head, second bit - yup - aware of that.

It's purely to get get files on and off my laptop, and occasionally phone. Understand now I'm limited to 700 without Ethernet.

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#3361573 7-Apr-2025 11:09

@MaxineN

Max - one last q which isn't related to above but have been curious about since porting to Kogan.

[b]VoWiFi[b]

With Kogan as you know you have to buy add on international calling pack to call eg UK.

Was curious if I could call the Uk last night - without buying an add on international calling pack - using VOWiFi (Aeroplane Mode, WiFi only).

Turns it out I couldn't - got the 'haven't go enough credit recorded message'.

So from that I am assuming that even with VOWiFi - it is still routed over Kogan's cellular network. If so - what is the advantage then of VOWiFi.

Apart from Facetime, Whatsapp and iMessage, and MMS not chewing Kogan's data.

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#3361574 7-Apr-2025 11:13

The advantage of VoWiFi is being able to use your plan without roaming charges. If you're trying to call a number beyond then you need to purchase the appropriate pack to do so.

From the website's specifics:
*Unlimited refers to calls and texts to standard New Zealand and Australian numbers, landlines and mobiles, placed while in New Zealand.

If you get "Wi-Fi Calling" then you are practically in NZ but you are still subjected to international calling terms and you need whatever pack is required to call that number.

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#3361614 7-Apr-2025 12:12

Oh I see - thank you so much.

And for all your help.

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