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#1754922 3-Apr-2017 17:42

SaltyNZ:

surfisup1000:

Their were rumours of a groundbreaking plan from 2d a few weeks back. I guess this is it.

No.

I don't know why they go for "unlimited" where there does seem to be a limit. Just say "here is 30gigs of mobile data a month for $130".

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#1754931 3-Apr-2017 17:51

tripp:

cokeman2: I just signed up for spark 4G wireless broadband plan for $155 for 240gb.... :(.

You would not be able to use the 2degrees unlimited anyway, its for "phones" not wireless broadband.

well just seems the 240gb is a joke for data now , when they got a unlimited plan, even thou restricted .....people could just put on Netflix hd non stop pretty sure fire threw 240gb

pretty fast in the unlimited plan even on just one device

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#1754932 3-Apr-2017 17:52

tripp:

SaltyNZ:

surfisup1000:

Their were rumours of a groundbreaking plan from 2d a few weeks back. I guess this is it.

No.

I don't know why they go for "unlimited" where there does seem to be a limit. Just say "here is 30gigs of mobile data a month for $130".

I wasn't commenting on the legal complexities of Fair Use.

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#1754935 3-Apr-2017 17:53

Whats to stop someone getting a sim card adapter/modem for a PC? (I assume such devices exist) How are they also going to know if a sim is being used in an ipad or other tablet, or even a microsoft surface PC and not a phone? I use my phone to tether all the time with my laptop. This plan just sounds backwards.

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#1754945 3-Apr-2017 18:31

tripp:

SaltyNZ:

surfisup1000:

Their were rumours of a groundbreaking plan from 2d a few weeks back. I guess this is it.

No.

I don't know why they go for "unlimited" where there does seem to be a limit. Just say "here is 30gigs of mobile data a month for $130".

What's the big deal about it having fair use on it? I don't see you complaining about fair use on calls/text.....

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#1754949 3-Apr-2017 18:47

I imagine it'll be something along the lines of you must have an approved device/IMEI to get on board, and the SIM will be locked to the IMEI (assuming that's possible).

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#1754956 3-Apr-2017 19:07

Clearly there must be a level of usage beyond which this product becomes uneconomic to supply, so I would rather that they were just straight up about how much they are comfortable with people using rather than throwing around the term 'unlimited'.

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#1754962 3-Apr-2017 19:44

alasta:
Clearly there must be a level of usage beyond which this product becomes uneconomic to supply, so I would rather that they were just straight up about how much they are comfortable with people using rather than throwing around the term 'unlimited'.

While I agree, perhaps this is not as clear cut as that?

If they say "unlimited" and mean an average of 30gb/client... I use 240gb in NFlix HD and 20 other people use 8-10 in Spotify/Facebook etc... they still make their "30/client=profit" margin and we all think "I have unlimited and do as much as I like" (=happy customers)...

As with the adsl, when only one offers 'unlimited' and only really attracted the ultra-heavy users the market forces crashed the scenario... once more providers came to the party and the 'heavy users' were (are) an evenly spread minority they all made the profit to float their share of 'heavy users' (GZ would be an eye-watering set... see the 'how much do you use' thread 😂)

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#1755957 3-Apr-2017 20:09

mattwnz:

Whats to stop someone getting a sim card adapter/modem for a PC? (I assume such devices exist) How are they also going to know if a sim is being used in an ipad or other tablet, or even a microsoft surface PC and not a phone? I use my phone to tether all the time with my laptop. This plan just sounds backwards.

It's very simple for them to know if a SIM is used in another device. Likewise it's very easy to know when tethering is in use, and disable it for approved devices.

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#1755968 3-Apr-2017 20:37

Would be ideal for a mobile desktop device:

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#1756006 3-Apr-2017 21:50

sbiddle:

It's very simple for them to know if a SIM is used in another device. Likewise it's very easy to know when tethering is in use, and disable it for approved devices.

In a device they do not supply how are they to tell that traffic is coming from a device natt'ed behind the mobile device?

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#1756033 3-Apr-2017 22:02

noroad:

sbiddle:

It's very simple for them to know if a SIM is used in another device. Likewise it's very easy to know when tethering is in use, and disable it for approved devices.

In a device they do not supply how are they to tell that traffic is coming from a device natt'ed behind the mobile device?

Very simple, although also very simple to bypass if you know how to fiddle your browser headers ;)

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#1756035 3-Apr-2017 22:08

I'd been keen but the coverage mid North Island is really bad. I have 2 numbers sharing data with Vodafone and do about 11gb a month. Lots of youtube while out and about and it also helps to keep the kiddies quiet when out at functions like weddings and 21st etc and uploading a plethora of pics to social media so I do have one eye on this proposed plan. Give me 20gb and I'm good.

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#1756040 3-Apr-2017 22:35

I've had a SIM from 3 in the UK. Used it in my S7, running Spark firmware. If I tried to enable tethering, the devices that connected to the hotspot were all directed to a page saying that tethering isn't enabled on the plan. Using that same SIM in a rooted phone running Cyanogen mod, anything connected to the hotspot via tethering worked as expected.

I would guess that phones by default have means within their OS to identify traffic sourced from a tethered device, and differentiate it to the carrier.

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#1756130 4-Apr-2017 09:52

a 30 second google search will show you various techniques a telco can use to identify tethering

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