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#1649802 12-Oct-2016 14:35

networkn:

dafman:

networkn:

I am in the same boat. I want a similar sized screen and resolution, loads of power and memory. I don't want an Apple device. I can hang out a month, but really not ideal to hang out longer than that. Pixel XL or LG V20 seem like likely candidates. I am confused by the current Sony line up. they have a 4K Z5 Premium but that looks like last years model?

The Note 7 screen would annoy me after having a larger screen. Two things I'll miss on any device are the Spen which I didn't use a lot but still used, and more importantly a physical button for home (and camera).

Any other candidates?

The Sony XY has just launched in the UK and other places. It looks really nice, but is only running 1080p screen and and has Sony's large bezels - is the same physical dimensions as my old Z2. But build quality looks great and Sony are talking up the camera.

Do you mean Sony XZ?

I'd prefer QHD over 1080P though it's not the end of the world. I don't really like large bezels any more.

The larger screen is a reasonable drawcard. I liked the Nexus 6P.

So torn. Also USB C would be a factor.

Yes, the XZ!.

I really loved my Z2 until the touchscreen died - still my favourite phone to date. But Sony seem to have lost their way of recent with design and specs, although the XZ is a promising new addition. I just wish they would shrink their hardware and bezels down - the XZ is a big phone for the screen size.

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#1649811 12-Oct-2016 15:00

What other Quad HD phones are available from NZ carriers?

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#1649855 12-Oct-2016 16:26

Uh, galaxy s7 and s7 edge are basically the same device as the note 7, mostly form factor differences, internally nearly identical. Would seem the most logical interim device.

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#1649868 12-Oct-2016 16:52

1eStar: Uh, galaxy s7 and s7 edge are basically the same device as the note 7, mostly form factor differences, internally nearly identical. Would seem the most logical interim device.

This

I have Galaxy S7 Edge and it is excellent.

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#1649870 12-Oct-2016 16:54

Geektastic:

How safe are the Chinese makes from cyber hacking type issues?

When I worked in the government, there was a list of Chinese phones that GCSB had banned from government buildings over concerns that they could be used as listening devices by Chinese Intelligence Agencies. Some government departments (e.g. MFAT) still make visitors surrender their phones at reception as a result.

99.99999% of this stuff propaganda bollocks.

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#1649871 12-Oct-2016 16:54

I am not thinking of going back to Sony coz I had a heating problem

Charging would make it heat up

Gaming would make it heat up

Extended use on a call or browsing would make it heat up

Most likely S7 Edge for me

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#1649875 12-Oct-2016 17:10

woodson:

- OnePlus 3

- Moto G4

- Nexus 5x

- LG G5

- Huawei P9

I'd suggest the LG V20 over the G5.

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#1649895 12-Oct-2016 18:49

As above, no need to use iTunes unless you want to load music files on from your PC. Spotify / Apple Music all the way.

- Screen resolution is nowhere as good. Yep, individual pixels I can see!

Yep - 7 plus is 1080p

- No wireless charging

Yeah, but I don't care about that, prefer the faster charging of a cable

- No NFC (for general use)

No, but not many people have a use for this,

ANZ is rolling out Apple Pay, Hopefully more banks will follow. Apple Pay is a great system.

- similar screen size, but much bigger hardware dimensions

- bezels - all of them, are much bigger

True

- No 3.5mm headphone jack

Adapter and compatible earphones included in the box, Other phones in the future will also remove the 3.5mm jack. I personally use bluetooth.

- No expandable storage

I prefer a larger internal storage than having to file manage both of them. They come in 32gb, 128gb and 256gb options

Why would you bother?

Because, iPhones do what 99% of people need to do and they do it well, and the majority are happy with them.

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#1649896 12-Oct-2016 18:49

Jizah:
woodson:

- OnePlus 3

- Moto G4

- Nexus 5x

- LG G5

- Huawei P9

I'd suggest the LG V20 over the G5.

The G5 just looks ugly, esp back panel IMHO. V20 is a big step forward

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#1649928 12-Oct-2016 19:53

MikeB4:
Geektastic:

How safe are the Chinese makes from cyber hacking type issues?

When I worked in the government, there was a list of Chinese phones that GCSB had banned from government buildings over concerns that they could be used as listening devices by Chinese Intelligence Agencies. Some government departments (e.g. MFAT) still make visitors surrender their phones at reception as a result.

99.99999% of this stuff propaganda bollocks.

Not sure why you would say bullock because there has literally been cases when that happens and it's in the best interest of the Chinese to do so anyway judging from how much people use their phone nowadays. Basically they are known to send data back to the Chinese government

http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/xiaomi-phones-steal-user-data-and-send-it-to-remote-servers-in-china-warns-indian-air-force-238673.html
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The note also cites Phonearena that claims the Chinese government may be involved. “According to the PhoneArena report, looking up the website of the company owning the IP address in the range 42.62.48.0-42.62.48.255 reveals that the website owner is www.cnnic.cn. CNNIC is the administrative agency responsible for Internet affairs under the Ministry of Information Industry of People’s Republic of China. It is based in the Zhongguancun high tech district of Beijing,” IAF adds in the note.

Xiaomi has been tight lipped and hasn’t commented on the matter yet. India is an extremely crucial market for Xiaomi and the company has almost shed the Chinese brand image to woo audiences here.
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There's also the problem with cheaper, crappier SoC made by MediaTek having root level backdoor

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/chinese-smartphone-might-serious-security-problem/
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The MT6582 came with a debug setting enabled, which according to wthe manufacturer, was used to test “telecommunications interoperability” in China.

Many phones run SoCs (System on Chip) built by Taiwanese-based MediaTek, who are one of the largest semiconductor manufacturers in the world. In 2013, they produced a phenomenal 220 million smartphone chips. One of their biggest sellers is the MT6582, which is used in a number of low-end smartphones, with many of them produced by Chinese manufacturers like Lenovo and Huawei.
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Also since it's just the cheaper SoC maker, those targeted users are less likely to care as much to have their data scraped and welp.

IIRC there are also some other ones that were discovered earlier this year which gave root level access to silently install apps in the background.

But yeah imagine the user profile they can build from those data. They can find out who you've been associating with through your contact list, where you are/have been at what time. The possibility is endless.

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#1649969 12-Oct-2016 21:33

Would you consider HTC 10?

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#1650020 12-Oct-2016 22:49

MikeB4:

Geektastic:

How safe are the Chinese makes from cyber hacking type issues?

When I worked in the government, there was a list of Chinese phones that GCSB had banned from government buildings over concerns that they could be used as listening devices by Chinese Intelligence Agencies. Some government departments (e.g. MFAT) still make visitors surrender their phones at reception as a result.

99.99999% of this stuff propaganda bollocks.

Well, it was expensive propaganda from our own intelligence agency because it made us replace a load of Ministerial office phones....

I'm inclined to believe that they had some reason for telling us to to that.

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#1650021 12-Oct-2016 22:52

networkn:

dafman:

networkn:

I am in the same boat. I want a similar sized screen and resolution, loads of power and memory. I don't want an Apple device. I can hang out a month, but really not ideal to hang out longer than that. Pixel XL or LG V20 seem like likely candidates. I am confused by the current Sony line up. they have a 4K Z5 Premium but that looks like last years model?

The Note 7 screen would annoy me after having a larger screen. Two things I'll miss on any device are the Spen which I didn't use a lot but still used, and more importantly a physical button for home (and camera).

Any other candidates?

The Sony XY has just launched in the UK and other places. It looks really nice, but is only running 1080p screen and and has Sony's large bezels - is the same physical dimensions as my old Z2. But build quality looks great and Sony are talking up the camera.

Do you mean Sony XZ?

I'd prefer QHD over 1080P though it's not the end of the world. I don't really like large bezels any more.

The larger screen is a reasonable drawcard. I liked the Nexus 6P.

So torn. Also USB C would be a factor.

Also I do not think the posh version of that Sony is available here? Certainly not on VF or Spark anyway. The Sony, on the plus side, does have a high MP camera if that is of relevance.

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#1650026 12-Oct-2016 23:22

As a percentage of total production, how many Note 7's actually had the problem?

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#1650036 13-Oct-2016 00:16

dafman:

Benjip:

BinaryLimited:

interesting...will check out the google pixel.

not a fan of apple...esp itunes :)

It's all about Apple Music these days (a personal music library/Spotify hybrid) on iOS, you don't need to use iTunes at all.

Although, comparing the iPhone 7 plus to the Note 7:

- Screen resolution is nowhere as good. Yep, individual pixels I can see!

- No wireless charging

- No NFC (for general use)

- similar screen size, but much bigger hardware dimensions

- bezels - all of them, are much bigger

- No 3.5mm headphone jack

- No expandable storage

Why would you bother?

That is mainly due to the LCD technology being used. The iphone 8 will likely be the phone to get, as it will likely have an entirely new screen type and res. You must have amazing eyes, or use strong glasses if you can see the pixels. The lack of expandabale storage, isn't such an issue with it as it now has a very large storage option. The lack of a headphone jack is certainly a turn off. But that said, the build quality and the long Apple support period of iOS, plus the relatively high resale price you can get for selling, are all advantages with iphones. Also I just find them far more reliable and the apps just run better and faster from my experience. There is none of the lag I sometimes get with android, where you have to purge the memory. Wireless charging isn't really a feature worth having, it is simple just to plug in a cable, and also means that they can use metal on all of the body. The next iphone though will likely have wireless charging, as that will then allow it to be charged while someone is listening to music with headphones.

Having bezels on the screen isn't really an issue for most, as they put the phone in cases anyway.

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