ubergeeknz:

Glassboy:

That's an amusing game, and you get a wide variety of answers.

Now can you please tell me how you think physically (as in where the cables run) you can be in China one hop out from the TCL network?  Have you ever seen a map of the world?

One IP hop... who knows how many MPLS hops.

But at any rate, US via HK? Something isn't quite right there.

johnr: Hong Kong is in Hong Kong and China is it's own country, I have visited both

Hong Kong use to be under British rule but I am sure then it was not in Britain and still in the same location as it is now

So the traffic is going via Hong Kong

John

 

 

1. Hong Kong differs from all other Asian nations in that it is now part of China, even if it exists as a Special Administrative Region (SAR) under China's “one country, two systems” policy.Sep 10, 2013

FierceGuppy:

Local speed is usually good.  Currently ~86Mbps, but I've had over 100Mbps yet the twitch.tv streams as low as 1.3Mbps are still inundated with pauses.  People on the BigPipe service in Auckland can watch multiple twitch.tv video streams broadcasting at Source bitrates (4-6Mbps) without any pausing. 

johnr:

ubergeeknz:

Glassboy:

FierceGuppy:

johnr: Confused where which hop/s?

202.84.223.85
202.84.140.242
202.84.251.98

Google for "IP locator".

That's an amusing game, and you get a wide variety of answers.

Now can you please tell me how you think physically (as in where the cables run) you can be in China one hop out from the TCL network?  Have you ever seen a map of the world?

One IP hop... who knows how many MPLS hops.

But at any rate, US via HK? Something isn't quite right there.

Have to agree something does not seem right but internet traffic does not always take the most direct path due to a number of reasons

Dairyxox:

johnr: Hong Kong is in Hong Kong and China is it's own country, I have visited both

Hong Kong use to be under British rule but I am sure then it was not in Britain and still in the same location as it is now

So the traffic is going via Hong Kong

John

Wow. Hong Kong is part of China, a similar way Waiheke Island is part of New Zealand.

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   Hong Kong differs from all other Asian nations in that it is now part of China, even if it exists as a Special Administrative Region (SAR) under China's “one country, two systems” policy.Sep 10, 2013

www.forbes.com

Glassboy:

FierceGuppy:

Local speed is usually good.  Currently ~86Mbps, but I've had over 100Mbps yet the twitch.tv streams as low as 1.3Mbps are still inundated with pauses.  People on the BigPipe service in Auckland can watch multiple twitch.tv video streams broadcasting at Source bitrates (4-6Mbps) without any pausing. 

I'm on Vodafone VDSL in Wellington and I can watch three twitch streams on my laptop and one on my PS4 with minimal problems.  Some audio drop but I put that down to people overloading their mikes by blasting Spotify in the background.

My tracert to twitch is far less torturous than yours tho'.

Dairyxox:

johnr: Hong Kong is in Hong Kong and China is it's own country, I have visited both

Hong Kong use to be under British rule but I am sure then it was not in Britain and still in the same location as it is now

So the traffic is going via Hong Kong

John

Wow. Hong Kong is part of China, a similar way Waiheke Island is part of New Zealand.

 

 

1. Hong Kong differs from all other Asian nations in that it is now part of China, even if it exists as a Special Administrative Region (SAR) under China's “one country, two systems” policy.Sep 10, 2013

www.forbes.com

 

While what you claim is correct, it is also be correct that the traffic is going through China.

xlinknz: welcome to the wonderful world off internet [bgp] routing where traffic can go in all sorts of directions deliberately, accidentally and maliciously

basically there are no guarantees your traffic will take the shortest or lowest latency path

and this means in some circumstances a satellite link [low orbit] can have less latency than a sea floor fibre link !

FierceGuppy:

Interesting!  Would you mind posting your tracert?

johnr:

Dairyxox:

johnr: Hong Kong is in Hong Kong and China is it's own country, I have visited both

Hong Kong use to be under British rule but I am sure then it was not in Britain and still in the same location as it is now

So the traffic is going via Hong Kong

John

Wow. Hong Kong is part of China, a similar way Waiheke Island is part of New Zealand.

 

 

 

1. 
   Hong Kong differs from all other Asian nations in that it is now part of China, even if it exists as a Special Administrative Region (SAR) under China's “one country, two systems” policy.Sep 10, 2013

www.forbes.com

 

 

Some sites say it is it's own country and same say it's not, The main thing is the traffic is not going via main land China

Glassboy:

FierceGuppy:

Interesting!  Would you mind posting your tracert?

Here's the relevant bit.

Tracing route to twitch.tv [192.16.71.181]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 4 ms 6 ms 4 ms 210.246.35.254
3 6 ms 4 ms 4 ms gi0-2-0-3.ppnzwtc01.wlg.vf.net.nz.180.109.203.in-addr.arpa [203.109.180.210]
4 5 ms 6 ms 4 ms gi0-2-0-3.ppnzwtc02.wlg.vf.net.nz [203.109.180.209]
5 138 ms 137 ms 138 ms 10.123.80.69
6 137 ms 145 ms 149 ms v407.core1.sjc1.he.net [216.218.254.57]
7 138 ms 137 ms 137 ms 10ge1-4.core1.pao1.he.net [72.52.92.113]
8 * * * Request timed out.