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#1211929 11-Jan-2015 13:15

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ilovemusic: nothing so advanced as a tachograph.

last time i looked (about a decade ago) it was logbooks and mechanical hubodometers (separate odometer mounted in a rear wheel hub) in godzone.

Ah well then. The solution to speeding trucks & buses and drivers abusing hours worked regulations has existed for at least 30 years: I can only assume our politicians do not care.

*Most* transport companies these days track via GPS.

I had a call from a boss one day asking why I was doing 97. It was to keep the line of traffic behind me moving until we could reach a passing lane in about 5km since 2 cars had passed me dangerously and at least 2 more were looking at doing the same. There was nowhere for me to safely pull over (semi trailer). I reached the passing lane and slowed to let them all pass and then continued on my way doing 92.
Sometimes the speed limit between trucks and cars is stupid and dangerous on NZs single lane roads.

And when car drivers get a 9km/h leeway on the speed limit, trucks get 4. So our company had alerts for trucks doing 95+.

However, tachos are legal documents which are used to fine truck and bus drivers for speeding and are used in prosecutions for hours abuses. Merely tracking the vehicle using GPS is not quite the same as a tachograph regime.

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#1211934 11-Jan-2015 13:41

blakamin:

*Most* transport companies these days track via GPS.

I had a call from a boss one day asking why I was doing 97. It was to keep the line of traffic behind me moving until we could reach a passing lane in about 5km since 2 cars had passed me dangerously and at least 2 more were looking at doing the same. There was nowhere for me to safely pull over (semi trailer). I reached the passing lane and slowed to let them all pass and then continued on my way doing 92.
Sometimes the speed limit between trucks and cars is stupid and dangerous on NZs single lane roads.

And when car drivers get a 9km/h leeway on the speed limit, trucks get 4. So our company had alerts for trucks doing 95+.

sounds like the tolerance is "7" ;D

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#1211935 11-Jan-2015 14:01

joker97: now here's another one. http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/64822052/footage-of-bad-driving-goes-viral
bus overtakes and "does not complete manouevre by end of passing lane"; 4wd towing something "didn't see him coming", was "shocked", police thinks the bus driver is "wrong because he didn't complete the task by the end of the overtaking lane"

seriously, how else was the bus going to get past? do it in a non passing lane? he didn't see the bus coming - doesn't the road code require car to check his mirrors? on cruise control at 92 in the passing lane - i hope he didn't lie. some very slow cars speed up like crazy "without realizing"

You're right. There are always two sides to the story and this holier than thou statement from the driver of the vehicle makes me wonder if some details have been omitted. This is one of the reasons why I don't give my credence to content posted on thse "worst driving" websites.

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#1212669 12-Jan-2015 17:18

Geektastic:

However, tachos are legal documents which are used to fine truck and bus drivers for speeding and are used in prosecutions for hours abuses.

Not in countries that don't use them.

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#1212811 12-Jan-2015 22:32

blakamin:
Geektastic:

However, tachos are legal documents which are used to fine truck and bus drivers for speeding and are used in prosecutions for hours abuses.

Not in countries that don't use them.

Well, obviously....

However, they are law in the entire EU.

Given what I see on NZ roads and read in the papers, they should be here also.

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#1215251 15-Jan-2015 08:18

freitasm: Drove Wellington - Napier - Wellington just after New Year. Surprisingly empty roads and we did a great time (on SH2 via the Wairarapa).

Why people drive at 80km/h on a 100km/h open road, when they see the sign for 70km/h they drop to 50km/h and when they see the 50km/sign they drop to 30km/h?

This is standard for Hawkes Bay - Yesterday returning from Taupo there was a 1km tailback on the expressway with cars crawling along. Id just come from the opposite direction and there were absolutely no obstructions, just drivers that when they meet the "motorway..lol" slow down.

freitasm:

Why do some people put foot in the brakes when they are driving on a 100km/h open road? Can't they keep the speed without doing it? Not an one off thing, this one guy in front of me was doing every few seconds.

This is a pretty common indicator of a nervous or inexperienced driver or someone driving an auto with two feet... eeek.

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What a bunch of idiots.

-Oh yes.

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#1580666 26-Jun-2016 19:32

Getting back on an older thread... "A Kaikoura police officer followed the driver, with the patrol car's siren and lights going, for nearly 80km."

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#1580912 27-Jun-2016 09:40

I drove into Wellington city from the Hutt Valley yesterday (Sunday). It was late morning and there wasn't much traffic about but weather and road conditions were atrocious - rain was not really heavy but it was being blown into the windscreen such that pretty much as soon as the wipers passed over the screen it was wet enought to be difficult to see clearly. As a result I was only around 90.

As I approached the section where the smart motorway (is there a thread on this yet?) still hasn't been finished there are signs advising of the 70km/h roadworks section ahead, so I took my foot off the gas and started to slow down. When I got to the start of the 70k section I was probably still doing about 75, but still slowing. And then I get overtaken by someone driving an early/mid 1990s dark blue BMW 5 series sedan. I'm no expert, but at a rough guess I'd say they were doing around 120km/h, in a 70km/h zone, with a broken/uneven surface and a lot of water on the road, and very poor visibility.

Unfortunately smart motorways and smart car technology are no match for stupid drivers.

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#1580913 27-Jun-2016 09:42

andrew027: Unfortunately smart motorways and smart car technology are no match for stupid drivers.

QFT.

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#1580976 27-Jun-2016 12:05

Queen Charlotte drive? It's campervan infested. It is shorter by distance, but not by time.

joker97:

and I remember trying to be clever and take a shortcut between picton and Nelson ... 100k road ... I couldn't even do 50kph in MORE than half the road.

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#1580989 27-Jun-2016 12:24

Sometimes it's the rate of passing.

For example last weekend I was third in a queue of about a dozen vehicles behind a car towing a horse float . I get to a nice long uphill passing lane and the vehicle in front of me (a small truck) pulls into the passing lane and proceeds to crawl up hill. We get to the end of the passing lane and he just manages to get past the horse float, but no-one else does.

Instead of the usual 5 or 6 vehicles getting past. One marginally faster small truck does.

That is the sort of behaviour that leads to 'undertaking'.

PeterQ: If everyone stuck to the rule keep left unless passing, passing on the inside would not happen

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#1665544 8-Nov-2016 09:24

Anyone else would have the car impounded on the spot. But no... He gets nine months disqualification, 120 hours community work. And keeps his Audi.

That, despite "being convicted for driving at dangerous speed in 1982; driving in a dangerous manner in 1980; driving in a dangerous manner and failing to stop for police in 1989; and in 2008 driving recklessly and failing to stop for police. He also alluded to a "smattering" of other convictions both in New Zealand and overseas."

But his defence lawyer says "[the driver] was the managing director of a sizeable and reputable company which saw him travel extensively in New Zealand and overseas." as if this was a good reason for doing 177km/h on the road.

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#1665558 8-Nov-2016 09:43

Different rules for rich people that's how it's always been

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#1665560 8-Nov-2016 09:46

We went for a trip from Palmerston North to Martinborough in the Wairarapa on Sunday. There are very few passing lanes on SH2 from Woodville to Greytown. We had 3 or 4 complete **** wits dangerously overtake us, or overtake other cars travelling in our direction. IMHO, it's only sheer dumb luck a lot of the time that the road toll ain't higher!!

There have been a couple of fatal accidents on SH2 near Eketahuna and Mt Bruce recently, a fact that seems to make no difference to these morons who are so impatient.

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#1665565 8-Nov-2016 09:57

I witnessed a cop actually pull over a slow driver in the fast lane of the Southern Motorway yesterday. She was going about 80 up the Bombays.

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