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Looks like a lot of ChargeNet chargers about to come online in Wellington (at least 3 new fast chargers in the CBD) and Whanganui (at the Pak n Save).
This scene is changing fast.
The government is also going to be making some kind of EV announcement today.
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Extract from above:
EVRoam is providing drivers of electric vehicles (EV) with real-time information about where they can find reliable charging stations right around the country.
It is a live database, collated by the NZ Transport Agency from real-time data fed directly from charging station operators such as Chargenet and Vector. EVRoam then shares this information out as widely as possible, to dozens of other websites and apps, so that drivers can receive reliable data on charging stations through all channels.
“This is about giving people the practical tools to confidently drive an electric vehicle right around the country and know they have the power to go the distance,” says Genter.
“EVRoam lets drivers know if a charging station is active and able to be used, which means they can confidently plan their journeys. It aims to give drivers confidence by identifying only reliable charging stations that meet government guidelines, such as having a consistent plug type and being monitored, she says.
Looks promising, but perhaps a system that allows you to actually book a charger for a specific time (in advance of arrival) might be even better?
frednz:
Looks promising, but perhaps a system that allows you to actually book a charger for a specific time (in advance of arrival) might be even better?
It's a work in progress....but off to a good start. Not all the chargers are there yet. Eastland Group's (Gisborne area) were all missing, for example.
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Are EV's in NZ at the point yet where additional charging stations are going to need to be built alongside current ones? e.g have a park with 5 or so chargers available.
DjShadow:
Are EV's in NZ at the point yet where additional charging stations are going to need to be built alongside current ones? e.g have a park with 5 or so chargers available.
I think there will be a point at which we reach 'peak charger'. Today's EVs aren't able to drive the length of NZ in one go, but the (more practically priced) cars with 400km+ range will be here in a couple of years. When your car can go for several days of normal driving without needing to recharge, your dependence on public fast chargers is greatly reduced. You'll plug in at night because it's cheaper than a public charger (and better for the grid) but it won't be a disaster if you forget one night or come home late and don't have time for a full overnight charge.
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It is a very interesting question as to how many chargers are enough - certainly right at the moment I travel from Wellington to Auckland and Wellington to Whakatane often and with the two routes (via National Park and Te Kuiti or via Desert Road and Taupo) I have had no congestion at the existing chargers. Also have the Otaki or Levin option.
But with the reality that most charging is at home and the increasing distance that EVs can travel because of bigger batteries and the opening of route options - it is not obvious to me how you can predict or work out how many chargers are enough to ensure there isn't congestion at chargers. There should perhaps be some information on this from countries such as Norway?
morrisk:
It is a very interesting question as to how many chargers are enough - certainly right at the moment I travel from Wellington to Auckland and Wellington to Whakatane often and with the two routes (via National Park and Te Kuiti or via Desert Road and Taupo) I have had no congestion at the existing chargers. Also have the Otaki or Levin option.
But with the reality that most charging is at home and the increasing distance that EVs can travel because of bigger batteries and the opening of route options - it is not obvious to me how you can predict or work out how many chargers are enough to ensure there isn't congestion at chargers. There should perhaps be some information on this from countries such as Norway?
I think you'll find more on the highway trunk but fewer in the town centres, compared to petrol station distribution now. You need a lot of petrol stations in towns to feed all the local vehicles, but local charging stations will be less important when drivers normally recharge at home. However, it will still be necessary to recharge during long drives both for reasons of range and for driver comfort and safety. Because it will always (or for the forseeable future anyway) take longer to recharge than to fill a tank, there will need to be more chargers than petrol pumps now. That will also mean a captive customer base who will take advantage of the enforced break.
So what I see is that instead of a central area with 10 chargers in it geared towards getting you out of the station in 5 minutes, you'll have the car park area served with chargers that can do a decent job in roughly half an hour. Short enough that you are not unnecessarily delayed but long enough for you to buy something at the shop. There might be a few super-fast chargers for those who really need to get moving, but you'd manage it with pricing - the half-hour chargers might be free (banking on you buying something at the shop) with the super-fast chargers costing money.
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New chargers have opened in Taihape, and 2 in Wellington (Barnett St by Te Papa and Inglewood Place near Taranaki St & Courtney Pl). Another to open any day in Grey St Wellington CBD.
All ChargeNet with usual costs.
Tokoroa fast charger now showing as operational. At the New World supermarket.
morrisk:
It is a very interesting question as to how many chargers are enough - certainly right at the moment I travel from Wellington to Auckland and Wellington to Whakatane often and with the two routes (via National Park and Te Kuiti or via Desert Road and Taupo) I have had no congestion at the existing chargers. Also have the Otaki or Levin option.
But with the reality that most charging is at home and the increasing distance that EVs can travel because of bigger batteries and the opening of route options - it is not obvious to me how you can predict or work out how many chargers are enough to ensure there isn't congestion at chargers. There should perhaps be some information on this from countries such as Norway?
From what I'm seeing at the moment, there are congestion points emerging in Tauranga, Cambridge, Taupo and Rotorua. These places are moving up the list for a second or third fast charger. But also having more in the same 30km stretch of road gives people choice. Especially as the apps now very often show if a charger is in use. Good to know.
To some extent the congestion we're seeing now is people with small batteries able, for the first time, to make longer trips. provided they ALL stop at certain 'chokepoint' chargers like......Tauranga, Rotorua and Cambridge. :-)
When cars have 400km range.......the demand on chargers on the highways will drop......though charging sessions will be longer when they do charge....even if only charging and adding 50%.
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morrisk:
Tokoroa fast charger now showing as operational. At the New World supermarket.
Looks like it's in car park that's locked at night.....but there is a public car park behind it with a footpath.......so even if the New World gates are locked it should be possible to pull up behind the charger in the public car park and still be able to charge. The cables are the usual shorter ones on the Veefils, but mounting the foot path with care should be easily doable......though there is the big pole in the path to the one side......so a bit awkward.....but not impossible.
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Linuxluver:
When cars have 400km range.......the demand on chargers on the highways will drop......though charging sessions will be longer when they do charge....even if only charging and adding 50%.
I expect the second wave of chargers, as the first generation age out and require replacement, will be of the super-fast 150kW+ types coming on stream now. Backward compatible with lil' ol' Chademo or CCS of course.
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