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John225
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  #3023886 19-Jan-2023 13:25
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HarmLessSolutions:

 

This owner's well monitored case study is interesting for a couple of reasons.

 

Firstly he is managing to maintain a steady SoH by his charging strategy and minimal distances travelled, which while possible in his situation is probably not practical usage for most Leaf owners.

 

 

https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-702-how-to-store-batteries

 

 

 

At 40% SOC battery voltage should be around 3.82V per cell. What I'm seeing, it would be closer to 50% SOC at 3.92V per cell. Storing at 3.7V for maximum longevity would be about 30% SOC. For me there are practical implications to reducing the storage SOC in my routine. The climate timer works if the battery SOC is 80% or over and the car is plugged in, so reducing the final SOC before departing for work in the morning would effectively negate using the climate timer. This is a bit of free cabin heat and demisting in winter (comes from the wall outlet rather than the battery).

 

Two main options for amending my charging routine come to mind.

 

1) Continuing to charge to 80% before departing for work. Car would sit around at work at about 60% SOC for 8 hours. I use about 20% each way mid summer. After reaching home the car would be around or below 40% SOC. Toping up to 40% with a short charge when required. Then use the charge timer to top the car off to 80% just before departing for work. Pluses are climate timer would still do its thing, routine is potentially simplified. Drawback is over 2000hrs per year sitting around at about 60% SOC (currently about 7500hrs/year, 8760/year total).

 

2) Charge to 60% before departing for work. Car would sit around at work at about 40% SOC. After reaching home the car would be at or below 20% SOC. An approximately 2 hour charge would top the car up to 40%. Then the charge timer would charge the car to 60% just before I depart for work. Drawbacks for this are the loss of the climate timer, and reduced ability to run errands after work. Under this routine the car would spend about 1200hrs per year not at but within 20% of its chosen storage SOC. The other 7500 hours per year it would be at its chosen storage SOC.

 

I wonder if the owner in the case study kept his car in a climate controlled garage. I see quite a lot of variation in the SOH Summer to Winter but my car sees normal ambient temperature fluctuations.




GV27
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  #3027200 26-Jan-2023 06:55
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Here's some fun facts about Nissan Leafs:

 

1) The camera is good, but it can't see a single bar of rebar sticking out of the ground at the top of the verge by the footpath? 

 

2) The parking sensors are great too, but also can't see a piece of rebar sticking out of the ground?

 

3) That the rear end diffuser is part of the rear bumper, not a separate part? So if you scrape it, you have to replace the whole bumper cover? 

 

I had one nice thing, and some ****'s desire to stop cars turning across his lawn means I now have a huge gash in the rear end of my car, all because I tried to do a safe three point turn in someone's driveway.


GV27
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  #3027209 26-Jan-2023 07:14
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Looks like I can replace the blue trim accents easily enough but the rear bumper with surround view has been discontinued in the American market so I'm not sure what the next step is. I'll talk to someone at work who might have a Nissan parts connection to see what they can do.

 

Excess is $750 + loss of no claims bonus so I'm going to have to see which is more costly, the claim or getting it fixed myself. 




  #3027455 26-Jan-2023 12:32
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GV27:

 

Here's some fun facts about Nissan Leafs:

 

1) The camera is good, but it can't see a single bar of rebar sticking out of the ground at the top of the verge by the footpath? 

 

2) The parking sensors are great too, but also can't see a piece of rebar sticking out of the ground?

 

3) That the rear end diffuser is part of the rear bumper, not a separate part? So if you scrape it, you have to replace the whole bumper cover? 

 

I had one nice thing, and some ****'s desire to stop cars turning across his lawn means I now have a huge gash in the rear end of my car, all because I tried to do a safe three point turn in someone's driveway.

 

 

could have not used the drive to turn around?

 

people do it in my drive/outside my place often, when there is a side street 50m up where you could do it a whole lot safer.

 

 


GV27
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  #3027463 26-Jan-2023 12:45
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Jase2985:

 

could have not used the drive to turn around?

 

people do it in my drive/outside my place often, when there is a side street 50m up where you could do it a whole lot safer.

 

 

Thanks for that. "Just don't do the perfectly reasonable thing that you did and you wouldn't have a problem". 

 

I live on a small cul de sac and if I had gone much further up the road, I would have been at the main road. So I used a driveway to do a safe three-point turn. Nothing illegal or unreasonable about it. As I said, it was not visible on the reversing camera/sensors and the bar didn't come up past the back windscreen so I couldn't see it. 

 

I think you'll find most local authorities take a dim view of people effectively fencing off their berms and narrowing access to driveways with single poles of rebar steel with no reflective tape or anything else that might make it identifiable at night, well past their own fence line.  


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  #3035255 11-Feb-2023 22:04
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I see this company is parting out some Nissan Leafs, from Christchurch.

Trademe store

The battery pack could be used for a Powerwall perhaps. There looks like a lot of solutions to use Leaf batteries, and hook to solar panels, for instance.

Apparently the battery packs should be water tight in their enclosures, so I'd expect some more batteries to come available in Auckland, due to insurance write-offs of flood damaged Leafs.


GV27
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  #3046622 7-Mar-2023 07:34
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Some notes on my JDM 2021 ZE1:

 

I've had some minor scratches on my stereo surface but I'm now at the point where it's just... probably past the point of no-return. None of them affect the polarisation of the light coming through the screen, so they're invisible at night, it just looks untidy when the sun is shining across it. I've managed to track down an original front screen and media unit fascia, new in box from Japan, the big unit is 28091-6WK0B for future reference if anyone wants to swap a JDM screen. I'll hang onto it until I go to sell, and fit a screen protector to the existing one.

 

I've been trying to wrap my head around how the screen can scratch from such basic use and realised that many Japanese people drive with gloves, which could explain why this isn't the kind of wear and tear they'd expect to see on a part sold exclusively in their market. 

 

Not having 6kw charging is a pain. I'm still going to upgrade this when I get the chance. SOH is going slightly, probably as a result of being trickle-charged each night at 1.7kw for a few hours. I've only used DC chargers about six or seven times since I got the car - mostly because they're consistently busy in our area or broken. I've got an EV POWER wall unit to install in our next house when we move.

 

And with that, the Leaf is going to become a family workhorse. I've been lucky enough to land a job that comes with a company vehicle, so it will make sense for my partner to sell her car and drive the Leaf from this point on.


 
 
 

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wellygary
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  #3046627 7-Mar-2023 08:43
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kingdragonfly: 

Apparently the battery packs should be water tight in their enclosures, so I'd expect some more batteries to come available in Auckland, due to insurance write-offs of flood damaged Leafs.

 

As of this morning, 10 Leafs and 3 Model 3s are reported as written off due to water damage since 24 January 

 

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicles/choosing-the-right-vehicle/recalls-and-damaged-vehicles/written-off-and-damaged-vehicles/

 

 


ElectricSteve
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  #3051657 18-Mar-2023 18:59
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Question about tyres.  My 2019 LEAF + (62 kWh) is fitted with Bridgestone ECOPIA 205/55 R16.  To replace these with the same tyre costs $371 each, they're nice and quiet but that's a bit steep.

 

ECOCAT 205/55 R16 cost $291 each, but are they as quiet as the ECOPIA?  I'm going to get 60,000 km out of the Bridgestones - 52,000 now and they still have at least 3.5 mm thread on them.


boland
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  #3051658 18-Mar-2023 19:05
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ElectricSteve:

Question about tyres.  My 2019 LEAF + (62 kWh) is fitted with Bridgestone ECOPIA 205/55 R16.  To replace these with the same tyre costs $371 each, they're nice and quiet but that's a bit steep.


ECOCAT 205/55 R16 cost $291 each, but are they as quiet as the ECOPIA?  I'm going to get 60,000 km out of the Bridgestones - 52,000 now and they still have at least 3.5 mm thread on them.


We've got the ecocat on our 2016 leaf and we like them, we got them since we bought the car end of last year.

Why would you spend so much money on tires though? I always bought tyres via hyper drive for about 100 bucks. Always had good experience with them.

HarmLessSolutions
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  #3051666 18-Mar-2023 19:28
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ElectricSteve:

 

Question about tyres.  My 2019 LEAF + (62 kWh) is fitted with Bridgestone ECOPIA 205/55 R16.  To replace these with the same tyre costs $371 each, they're nice and quiet but that's a bit steep.

 

ECOCAT 205/55 R16 cost $291 each, but are they as quiet as the ECOPIA?  I'm going to get 60,000 km out of the Bridgestones - 52,000 now and they still have at least 3.5 mm thread on them.

 

Agree that the Bridgestone Ecopias are expensive. Our 2012 Leaf is on its third set of tyres now with the original BSs being replaced by Kumho Wattruns at 49k kms and two Kumho Ecowings after another 45k kms as the fronts had worn out prematurely due to accident damage caused alignment issues. The Kumhos have performed well in terms of grip, noise and wear, and they're much cheaper than Ecopias. Our local TyreTorque branch supplied the Kumhos at a very reasonable price. More so the Wattruns that were a runout special and have since been superceded by the Ecowings.





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  #3051673 18-Mar-2023 20:10
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boland:

Why would you spend so much money on tires though? I always bought tyres via hyper drive for about 100 bucks. Always had good experience with them.

 

because they are what keep your car attached to the road

 

 

 

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ElectricSteve
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  #3051681 18-Mar-2023 20:55
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Road noise, I want as quiet a tyre as I can get for the cheapest price.

 

Thanks for your replies :-)


HarmLessSolutions
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  #3059553 5-Apr-2023 21:51
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Our 2012 24kWh Leaf has decided to stop charging its 12V battery. I'm hearing this is a known issue and requires an ECU reboot/firmware rejig or similar. Anybody else here has experience with this sort of issue? I know of another Leaf owner here in New Plymouth with a similar issue so suspect there will be others around NZ with the large numbers of older imported Leafs about.





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HarmLessSolutions
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  #3079888 26-May-2023 22:24
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Following on from my previous post this is the full story to date:

 

Our 2012 Leaf recently flattened its 12V battery over the course of a few days (maybe a week) of not being driven. The 12V battery was just under 9 years old so assumed that replacing it with a new one was understandable but the new one flattened over the next few days (of no driving) so a bit more research seemed adviseable.

 

Our usual workshop is upskilling into EVs and have a Leaf of similar age to ours as a customer loaner so they got the job of sussing out the problem with ours. Over the course of a week or two they discovered that something was turning on while the car was parked up every few minutes for a short time but enough to drain the 12V battery over time. The drain was narrowed down to a circuit and then by a process of elimination it was decided that the 12V battery monitoring function was the likely demand but for some reason wasn't then topping up the 12V battery from the traction battery and it was actually decreasing the charge level on top of that.

 

The solution has been to disconnect the 12V monitoring sensor which seems to have solved the problem. We just have to check the charge level of the 12V battery manually if the car isn't driven regularly so as not to get caught out again with a bricked car.

 

The dire condition of the old 12V battery may have contributed to the demise of sensor/charging function I guess so maybe a good reason to change out the 12V battery sooner rather than at complete failure but as an EV doesn't put the cranking load on a battery to indicate degradation maybe an age based replacement schedule is best.





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