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#1357153 2-Aug-2015 14:56

blakamin: I'm not a fan of "the pilot did it" theory either... until it is proven.

There's still uncontrolled decompression, fire, explosions.... all sorts of things.

I believe they have already said that someone on board had changed the planes course, and they wouldn't have said that unless they could prove it. I think basically ran out fuel after that, and crashed into the ocean. In fact it is as good as proven that it now crashed into the ocean, so that part isn't a mystery. That therefore now rules out a lot of the conspiracy theories. Until they actually find the black box, they won't probably be able to tell what happened on the plane. Although some wreckage may come ashore that may help, such as the forces applied to metal to pull it apart may tell you if it exploded in the sky or broke up when it hit he ocean, or even at what speed it may have hit the ocean it n

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#1357199 2-Aug-2015 17:42

If a fire or decompression or whatever thing happened at South China Sea ... The plane then flew itself with many turns and change of course many times by itself?

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#1357204 2-Aug-2015 17:47

joker97: If a fire or decompression or whatever thing happened at South China Sea ... The plane then flew itself with many turns and change of course many times by itself?

I guess it is possible some form of explosion happened that knocked the plane off course, and then it flew as normal, but I would have thought that would have been very unlikely without causing structural damage . But i think they have already said that someone on the plane physically charged the planes flight path. As was shown by what happened in europe recently with the plane crash, if the pilots had been locked out of the cockpit by a terrorist, it is likely they may not have been able to get back in again.

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#1357211 2-Aug-2015 18:00

Yes but in that case the plane won't turn. The radar tracked it going across Malayan peninsular. Banked around Penang island. Flew northwest along the straits of malacca. Radar drops it. An hour later pings picked up by immersat. But can't tell whether North or South from the last known location. Fire won't turn the plane like that. Someone or something did it.

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#1357217 2-Aug-2015 18:04

Unless of course that flaperon was blown off and it turned by itself. And then the autopilot compensated for it after the turn and just held it straight and level until it ran out of fuel.

I'm not going to blame a pilot from behind my keyboard until there's evidence.

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#1357269 2-Aug-2015 19:52

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11490809

Door has been found now. Pretty clearly this is the MH370

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#1357350 2-Aug-2015 22:02

incredible! stuff must have washed up on those few islands from the beginning of the year and people have just burnt them as rubbish!

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#1357383 2-Aug-2015 23:35

joker97: incredible! stuff must have washed up on those few islands from the beginning of the year and people have just burnt them as rubbish!

Pretty disgusting, if I was the families I would be asking some serious questions why beaches weren't being monitored. The guy had been using the wing as a makeshift table, so wonder how they finally worked it out that it was likely from the mh370 plane. The thing is that vital evidence may have been lost. For all we know someone on the plane may have written down or recorded on a device what had happened

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#1357399 3-Aug-2015 01:43

tdgeek: How does Stuff get away with this

The headline is not what the article said.

MH370: Debris 'definitely' from lost flight, says Malaysia Airlines

It is indeed confirmed by MAS early on. It isn't however yet confirmed by the Boeing team in France. MAS crew only had short time with the piece before they were bring evacuated from the island because of volcano eruption.

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#1357400 3-Aug-2015 01:44

mattwnz:
joker97: incredible! stuff must have washed up on those few islands from the beginning of the year and people have just burnt them as rubbish!

Pretty disgusting, if I was the families I would be asking some serious questions why beaches weren't being monitored. The guy had been using the wing as a makeshift table, so wonder how they finally worked it out that it was likely from the mh370 plane. The thing is that vital evidence may have been lost. For all we know someone on the plane may have written down or recorded on a device what had happened

How many islands and beaches do you want to monitor?

There are thousands of islands in Indian Ocean!!!!

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#1357566 3-Aug-2015 10:02

I like Joker's deductions myself.

The idea that the autopilot flew the plane on a different course is just not credible. They fly much more precisely than a pilot, making minute changes that a human wouldn't be able to do. In addition, they are set to fly a particular course. Just think about it. Pretty scary if the autopilot can pick a course at random.

The theory that the autopilot took time to correct for a flaperon falling off, allowing the plane to change course, then happily maintaining that 'new' course is not a goer.

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#1357860 3-Aug-2015 15:09

If debris from the plane turns up at multiple locations in varying amounts, then it might be possible to infer the point of origin of the debris to some level of accuracy.

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#1357864 3-Aug-2015 15:17

I think logically one could safely assume that the plane was controlled, at least for a period, by a human being. There are other POSSIBLE scenario's but you'd work from the most likely to the least likely and I'll donate $50 to a charity of someone elses choosing (Once) if it turns out this was entirely mechanical failure.

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#1357911 3-Aug-2015 15:53

MikeAqua: If debris from the plane turns up at multiple locations in varying amounts, then it might be possible to infer the point of origin of the debris to some level of accuracy.

Sounds too hard given the untold number of variables, but I read the other day where it would be very useful to reverse the winds and currents to create a backwards model. So different items of weight, exposure to winds, (ideally less) and reverse the known currents and winds. If they adjust the weightings of current and wind effect until the parts all generally meet up. Also thety are getting biochemists to assess the time in the water, useful if thay cannot get a unique part number of the wing part

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#1357913 3-Aug-2015 15:56

nakedmolerat:
mattwnz:
joker97: incredible! stuff must have washed up on those few islands from the beginning of the year and people have just burnt them as rubbish!

Pretty disgusting, if I was the families I would be asking some serious questions why beaches weren't being monitored. The guy had been using the wing as a makeshift table, so wonder how they finally worked it out that it was likely from the mh370 plane. The thing is that vital evidence may have been lost. For all we know someone on the plane may have written down or recorded on a device what had happened

How many islands and beaches do you want to monitor?

There are thousands of islands in Indian Ocean!!!!

Very true but a random sample of a large number would have been useful, may still be, as some evidence will get washed up, blown along to a point where it stays there, a slowly evolving catchment.

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