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#2969056 16-Sep-2022 11:03

My work computer (Windows). I clicked on the clock in the bottom-right corner, hoping to see the calendar. Nothing happened.

84 minutes later, the calendar appeared.

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#2969058 16-Sep-2022 11:08

freitasm:

You pay for one year less than what I pay per quarter in Wellington.

that is on top of the $3,400 rates i have to pay to my city council

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#2969059 16-Sep-2022 11:11

Behodar:

My work computer (Windows). I clicked on the clock in the bottom-right corner, hoping to see the calendar. Nothing happened.

84 minutes later, the calendar appeared.

That is about the same response time for the keyboard to do emoji to appair too. And the calculator app to open. Not sure how they could do it so bad.

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#2969093 16-Sep-2022 13:10

Behodar:

My work computer (Windows). I clicked on the clock in the bottom-right corner, hoping to see the calendar. Nothing happened.

84 minutes later, the calendar appeared.

Aw, come on. It's not like the calendar changes often. ;)

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#2969104 16-Sep-2022 13:34

vexxxboy:

that is on top of the $3,400 rates i have to pay to my city council

Sounds like your locality is ripe for amalgamation. My city council likely manages an area larger than your regional council, and yet charges about a third of what your city council does.

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#2969128 16-Sep-2022 15:05

Eva888: $18.5 Million will be spent on 'Road Calming' (that’s plants and stuff to hide the 'aggressive asphalt.').

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Speed humps by another name 😡 Our residential Karori street has three of them...

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#2969176 16-Sep-2022 15:07

Eva888: $18.5 Million will be spent on 'Road Calming' (that’s plants and stuff to hide the 'aggressive asphalt.').

They put plants in here a year or two ago, and have now removed them again. The council's own press release called them "widely criticised".

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#2969208 16-Sep-2022 15:47

Behodar:
They put plants in here a year or two ago, and have now removed them again. The council's own press release called them "widely criticised".

Something that anyone with more than two functioning brain cells, in other someone who doesn't work for the council, could have told you in advance without needing to spend a cent of ratepayers money.

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#2969213 16-Sep-2022 15:50

allan:

Eva888: $18.5 Million will be spent on 'Road Calming' (that’s plants and stuff to hide the 'aggressive asphalt.').

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Speed humps by another name 😡 Our residential Karori street has three of them...

Now that's right out of the NewSpeak manual... renaming something that at least irritates and sometimes (from the emoji) enrages motorists as "Road Calming". 🤐

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#2969216 16-Sep-2022 15:54

Inane comments on a thread about an event that the poster hasn’t watched.

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#2969226 16-Sep-2022 16:00

Senecio:
Public transport works for some people, but not the majority. Typically it works if you live in the suburbs and work in the CBD, it doesn't tend to work if you have to cross the CBD. I have a 40min drive to work and ~50mins home depending on traffic from West Auckland to South Auckland. If I were to take public transport it would take 2hr 10mins each way comprising of two trains, a bus and about 6km of walking at each end.

Public transport works in places like Europe where they have a functioning public transport system. For example you mention trains, in pretty much every European city I've been in trains always beat driving because they travel at high speed, pull into a station, doors open, people get out, others get in, and fifteen seconds later they're gone again. In Auckland the trains travel at a snail's pace, dawdle into the station, eventually the doors open, people start getting up out of their seats and making their way to the doors... I wasn't around in the 1930s but I imagine that's how holiday weekend train travel functioned then. So unlike Europe driving almost always beats the train, a huge disincentive to catching the thing.

You also mentioned cross-town (rather than hub-and-spoke) traffic. There's one single bus that goes from West Auckland, where lots of people live, to the North Shore, where lots of people work. Actually that's not quite true, there's three separate routes but they all have the same number, 120, and God help you if you accidentally get onto the 120 rather than the 120, or even the 120. This bus pretty much exists to connect the main transport hubs of Constellation, Westgate, and Henderson, from which you catch local buses to wherever you want to go.

However since the people who plan bus routes and schedules have quite likely never caught a bus in their lives and would run into serious trouble if presented with a Captcha where they had to click on images of buses, this connecting bus avoids the direct route on the motorway and goes down every side street and detour on the upper harbour (including duplicating existing routes that meander around Greenhithe), making it utterly useless at the sole thing it's meant to do, connect the western and North Shore transport hubs. Every time I've been on that bus it's been mostly empty, and the few people on it are pensioners who have plenty of time to spare while the bus meanders around Hobsonville and other areas.

Again, that's a huge disincentive for cars to not gridlock the Upper Harbour highway every day, the sole bus that covers that route is so badly set up that it's less painful to sit in gridlock twice a day than to catch it.

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#2969237 16-Sep-2022 16:13

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The problem with public transport is that you need a high population density (which we don't have) to make it effective.

A think a much bigger first step would be to have people who aren't totally incompetent doing the planning and organising (see my previous post). Once that's sorted out, we can see whether population density is even an issue or not.

Another example of total incompetence in planning: In European cities where they have public transport that works, trains and buses are synchronised. It's really nice, you get to the station, the local buses are waiting, bus passengers get on the train, train passengers get on the bus, and in under a minute both parties are on their way again.

Here (Auckland) any synchronisation is purely coincidental. There's one bus that I catch, called it A, that feeds to a transport hub and connects to bus B. That is, is goes as far as the hub and then offloads its passengers to B. The buses operate on a totally unsynchronised schedule, so that it's actually faster to walk home (about half an hour's walk) than to wait for the bus that A connects to to turn up.

An extreme example of this is Warkworth. There's one single bus from Auckland that goes up there, and one single bus from Warkworth that takes you out to where you're going if you're not stopping in Warkworth. The two are not synchronised, so there's a forty-five minute wait between them if you're coming into Auckland, longer than the bus trip itself takes. There's a bus shelter that the wind blows the rain into where you can shiver while you wait.

So the first step in getting Auckland's public transport sorted would be cancelling the drivers licenses of the incompetent idiots that currently run it to force them to dogfood the mess they've made (after giving them a photo sheet so they can identify what a bus looks like and instructions on how to use one), and then get someone who's at least vaguely competent to run it instead. Maybe we could let some Ukrainian refugees in to do it, they know how to run a public transport system over there.

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#2969252 16-Sep-2022 16:45

frankv:

geoffwnz:

The way to encourage a move from one mode to another is to make it much more attractive/easy etc. There are two ways to do this.

1. Make the (authority) preferred way so much better, easier, cheaper etc that it's a no brainer to switch.

2. Make the less preferred way hard to achieve and thus force people to switch against their will.

Unfortunately it seems the powers that be tend to go for option 2 and forget about improving the preferred service to a level that it needs to be at.

Councils already subsidise public transport, because it would be horrendously expensive to provide roads big enough for everyone to drive to work.

The problem with public transport is that you need a high population density (which we don't have) to make it effective. If you could move all the Wellingtonians from Johnsonville, Tawa, Kelburn, Karori, etc into blocks of flats in (say) Karori, you could then have a convenient (fast, frequent) and cheap public transport service between Karori and the CBD. In many European cities, public transport is so good that many people rarely use their cars, and many don't even own cars. Because public transport in NZ is poor, Kiwis (generally speaking) need a car, and need to drive it. Because many Kiwis commute by car, public transport is poor.

You assume people want to be moved from where they are. Or would be willing to move.

Surprise: no.

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#2969362 17-Sep-2022 06:58

Behodar:

My work computer (Windows). I clicked on the clock in the bottom-right corner, hoping to see the calendar. Nothing happened.

84 minutes later, the calendar appeared.

It had to tell all over the world that you did not want to be tracked at that time. ;-)

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#2969398 17-Sep-2022 09:31

freitasm:

frankv:

The problem with public transport is that you need a high population density (which we don't have) to make it effective. If you could move all the Wellingtonians from Johnsonville, Tawa, Kelburn, Karori, etc into blocks of flats in (say) Karori, you could then have a convenient (fast, frequent) and cheap public transport service between Karori and the CBD.

You assume people want to be moved from where they are. Or would be willing to move.

Surprise: no.

No, I don't assume that. I acknowledge that everyone wants to have their 1/4-acre paradise. I'm just saying that the downside of that is that public transport isn't feasible.

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