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  #2984284 18-Oct-2022 16:23
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Gurezaemon:I've managed to make one young scammer cry by asking if her mother was proud of what she did for a living. Almost felt bad for her. Almost.

 

You forgot to highlight the Almost!


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  #2984293 18-Oct-2022 17:34
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richms:

 

Telcos should be embarrassed that they cant solve this problem.

 

 

Oh, they could. Have a look overseas.





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  #2984339 18-Oct-2022 22:23
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frankv:

 

The point is survival of the species, or the disease.

 

So the host is killed so slowly that the disease gets to spread to other hosts.

 

Secondly, the disease organism doesn't have to develop complex symbiosis with its host (or at least parasitism) so that both can survive.

 

For wasps, I guess there's a competitive advantage in not being useful or nice to humans. All the effort that bees put into making honey can instead be put into reproducing and expanding their territory and surviving in more hostile climates. Whilst being a Georgian or Chechnian or Belorusian bee is handy in terms of support from the Russian human, a lot of your resources go to the Russian. Sometimes it's better to be a Ukrainian wasp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

What about diseases like cancer where there is no "organism"?






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  #2984357 19-Oct-2022 03:57
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The view that wasps and hornets are useless to humans and the subsequent removal of their nest can cost up to the equal of NZ$70,000 here in Germany, depending on the species. I do not go into more detail biologically now, but this price would be worth a closer look at the animals, right?

 

The nests are professionally relocated by volunteer experts for free, and the owners themselves must remove the property damage that has occurred anyway (mostly replacing the insulation and outer shells).





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  #2984360 19-Oct-2022 07:01
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Tinkerisk:

The view that wasps and hornets are useless to humans and the subsequent removal of their nest can cost up to the equal of NZ$70,000 here in Germany, depending on the species. I do not go into more detail biologically now, but this price would be worth a closer look at the animals, right?


The nests are professionally relocated by volunteer experts for free, and the owners themselves must remove the property damage that has occurred anyway (mostly replacing the insulation and outer shells).



Wasps are an introduced pest in NZ. They have no natural predators, and a combination of the temperate climate and honey dew from beech forests mean NZ now has the highest population density of wasps in the world.


-The German wasp (Vespula germanica) was first found near Hamilton in 1945; the common wasp (Vespula vulgaris) has been in New Zealand since 1978.

-The beech forests at the top of the South Island have the highest densities of wasps in the world; but wasps also occur in many other habitats across New Zealand.

-On average, there are 12 nests per hectare in beech forests, that’s about 10,000 wasps per hectare!

-The highest number of nests recorded was 50–60 nests per hectare, the equivalent of 25–30 nests on a football field.

-The largest nest ever found was four metres high and contained about four million cells.

-There is a greater biomass of wasps (3.8kg/ha) in beech forest than all the native birds plus stoats and rodents put together.

-The public voted wasps as “most disliked wildlife” (along with rats), because they spoil enjoyment of outdoor recreational activities.

-Wasps destroy or seriously damage 8–9% of honeybee hives in New Zealand each year.

-Wasps affect native foodwebs, and negatively affect the behaviour of native birds.

-The predation rate of wasps on some native invertebrates is so high that the probability of their populations surviving through the wasp season is virtually nil.


@Tinkerisk you're welcome to bring your group of professional volunteers to NZ and start removing these nests back to their natural habitat. Until that occurs, and based on the last three points above alone, I will continue to poison and eradicate as many of these pests as possible.


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  #2984363 19-Oct-2022 07:22
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Wasps are an excellent candidate for GMO eradication and we need to uncork that bottle ASAP. 


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  #2984391 19-Oct-2022 08:34
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GV27:

 

Wasps are an excellent candidate for GMO eradication and we need to uncork that bottle ASAP. 

 

 

You want to eradicate General Manager Operations? That's a bit harsh. And quite specific. 





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  #2984393 19-Oct-2022 08:38
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Ge0rge: 

 


-The public voted wasps as “most disliked wildlife” (along with rats), because they spoil enjoyment of outdoor recreational activities.

 

I'd be one of those public that dislike wasps immensely. I got stung on the nipple once, by a stripy bastard. Hurt like a motherfudger. It spoiled my enjoyment of the outdoor activity I was (up to that point) enjoying. 





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  #2984498 19-Oct-2022 10:26
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Geektastic:

 

frankv:

 

The point is survival of the species, or the disease.

 

So the host is killed so slowly that the disease gets to spread to other hosts.

 

Secondly, the disease organism doesn't have to develop complex symbiosis with its host (or at least parasitism) so that both can survive.

 

For wasps, I guess there's a competitive advantage in not being useful or nice to humans. All the effort that bees put into making honey can instead be put into reproducing and expanding their territory and surviving in more hostile climates. Whilst being a Georgian or Chechnian or Belorusian bee is handy in terms of support from the Russian human, a lot of your resources go to the Russian. Sometimes it's better to be a Ukrainian wasp.

 

 

What about diseases like cancer where there is no "organism"?

 

 

Think of it as if DNA sequences "want to" express themselves and live forever via reproduction. That applies to all DNA, whether it's a sequence across 46 chromosomes that defines a human, or some shorter sequence. So red hair or blue eyes "tries to" become the universal coloration, but is limited by natural selection and the fact that brown eyes or hair is better in some circumstances. And the same applies to DNA sequences that cause cancer or other diseases. There is presumably some advantage to some of the DNA in the cancer causing sequence, otherwise the disease wouldn't be as prevalent as it is.

 

 


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  #2984500 19-Oct-2022 10:29
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Handsomedan:

 

GV27:

 

Wasps are an excellent candidate for GMO eradication and we need to uncork that bottle ASAP. 

 

 

You want to eradicate General Manager Operations? That's a bit harsh. And quite specific. 

 

 

You would have to know the GMO to understand.

 

 


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  #2984679 19-Oct-2022 13:59
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Ge0rge:

@Tinkerisk you're welcome to bring your group of professional volunteers to NZ and start removing these nests back to their natural habitat. Until that occurs, and based on the last three points above alone, I will continue to poison and eradicate as many of these pests as possible.

 

Well, I didn't say that what applies to us should also apply to you. Looks like a plague. Now it's the German common wasp of all things - we didn't invent it and it's not protected here either. You must have brought them home in 1945? Perhaps you should settle the predators of the wasps at the same time (not really - there are, however, also hornets and you would certainly get a few other neozoa in addition). In our rivers, the Chinese mitten crab is currently multiplying magnificently and is becoming a plague in the whole EU. The bandits are even older here than in their native country. Well, so everyone has his fun ;-)





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  #2984961 19-Oct-2022 22:20
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The fact that, as far as I can work out, you cannot create a multi stop route in Maps on an Apple device running OSX but you can on a device running iOS. This seems nuts.






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Cafes that spoil some food by only reheating it in a microwave. For example slices of bacon and egg pie. The pastry is supposed to be flakey and crunchy not a soggy cardboard layer like comes out of a microwave.

Don't theses places even try their own food?

I can understand a quick burst in the microwave but finishing these items in an conventional oven of some sort would provide a much better outcome.





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  #2985154 20-Oct-2022 09:12
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Technofreak:

 

Cafes that spoil some food by only reheating it in a microwave. For example slices of bacon and egg pie. The pastry is supposed to be flakey and crunchy not a soggy cardboard layer like comes out of a microwave.

Don't theses places even try their own food?

I can understand a quick burst in the microwave but finishing these items in an conventional oven of some sort would provide a much better outcome.

 

 

Cafe's that ruin food by drizzling sauces and other condiments on food, when it's not clearly noted on the menu (or not noted at all). 

 

If I am having bacon and eggs on toast, I don't also want a side salad and vinaigrette, or some weird peach-flavoured jelly infecting the rest of my plate.  





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  #2985188 20-Oct-2022 11:11
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Technofreak:

Cafes that spoil some food by only reheating it in a microwave. For example slices of bacon and egg pie. The pastry is supposed to be flakey and crunchy not a soggy cardboard layer like comes out of a microwave.



Is it by any chance a place that advertises "food just like you get at home"? In which case it's probably an accurate emulation for most customers.

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