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  #598769 22-Mar-2012 18:07
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So, what about if you already had Chorus install a master splitter, and speeds are still way crapper than they should be?

I have connection speeds of roughly 12Mb/s a lot of the time, but really frequently it will drop to something in the order of 4Mb/s and becomes extremely unstable (constant disconnects). On one occasion, I lost voice connectivity for an entire week and was stuck with a 1Mb/s connection during that time.

This is on a Wholesale connection within 100 metres of a VDSL2 capable cabinet, so I can't imagine that even 12Mb/s is the theoretical maximum, but it's usable- 6Mb/s disconnecting every 5 minutes is not.

Chorus have "fixed" my line I think about 8 times now, after installing the master filter - is there any way to just tell them to rip it all out and replace it? It'll save days of their time in the long run, surely.

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  #608115 12-Apr-2012 07:56
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Hi Mat, so when its giving you 12Mb/s what is the line attenuation and noise margin.

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  #608125 12-Apr-2012 09:13
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Hi all

Is there a coffeebaron or cyril7 equivalent in ChCh?


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  #608431 12-Apr-2012 19:16
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cyril7: Hi Mat, so when its giving you 12Mb/s what is the line attenuation and noise margin.

Cyril


I'll let you know next time I attain that rate, but this is what I have at the moment:

Line mode: G.DMT
Maximum line rate: 4800 kbps (downstream) / 1132 kbps (upstream)
Noise margin: 13.8 dB (downstream) / 14 dB (upstream)
Line attenuation: 13.3 dB (downstream) / 7.5 dB (upstream)
Output power: 17.5 dBm (downstream) / 12.3 dBm (upstream)

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  #608446 12-Apr-2012 20:17
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MikeSkyrme:
stuzzo:
sbiddle:
chevrolux:
To be honest I don't think it would work as well as it might overseas. In NZ we generally just don't care how fast our internet is. People just assume, oh I am rural so I will have slow broadband. Or it's an old house so broadband will be slow etc. We just don't out any value on proper wiring. You look at homes for sale in the states and they will sell them as 'Ethernet ready' or 'Fibre ready'. People truly want the fastest speeds that are available to them.
Now to go back to an ad campaign, maybe if NZers new the potential for speed is there then more value will be put on wiring your home. Especially when you start talking about UFB.
I work for a cabling company. The boss did up a package for one of the main spec home builders in town here. It was very competitively priced (much less mark-up & hours than one would put on when quoting privately) and was a tiny (very tiny) portion of the complete cost of the home build. The builders were just not interested as they saw it as extra cost being put on the customer/extra cost they would have to absorb because the customer didn't want it. Instead, they just continue to let the electrician wire brand new homes in a daisy chain. Ludicrous. So yes, maybe some education to the masses is what is needed


IMHO a structured cabling system with minimum specs should be part of the building code - just like insulation and double glazing


Double Glazing is not even mentioned in the NZ Building code and there is no specific requirement for a certain level of insulation. It is a performance based system and, in fact, if you accept no more than 30% total glazing DG is not required as an acceptable solution in any NZ climate zone .It has largely been a voluntary adoption.

Generally, I'm not in favour of burdening people with more rules and regulations particularly where it applies to how they conduct their own affairs. There have been some spectacular failures of the rule book in recent years mainly because the rules rely on a small group of influencers.

Also isn't the Geek world always bleating when someone attempts to apply laws to the internet?


Ok, slightly off topic, however...... insluation requirements are included in the NZBC, check out clause H1.


 http://www.dbh.govt.nz/codewords-26-8

http://www.dbh.govt.nz/codewords-32-11

It's all there, double glazing not mandatory, nor is a specific level of insulation if BPI (building performance index) requirement can be shown to be achieved in other ways eg solar gain .

The point was the poster referred to something that he thought to be self-evident to reinforce his argument, but it wasn't so deserved to be challenged. 




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  #612012 19-Apr-2012 16:19
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Anyone know of someone in Rotorua or near that could check my wiring?

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  #612032 19-Apr-2012 17:07
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Hi all just wanted to say I have just had coffeebaron (Fraser) redo the wiring from the wall to my router and I am very very happy with a bit of a speed bump and it has confirmed that any issue I have is basically the result of congestion at my ISP . So if you need someone reliable and good it's a no brainer.




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  #612245 20-Apr-2012 08:25
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Mehul: Anyone know of someone in Rotorua or near that could check my wiring?

Sure, I come over you way every so often, so flick me some contact details and will see what I can do.

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Had coffeebaron in today to check my line and install a master filter. Straight away, line speed jumped 2.5 times the original. (7 to 19)

Knowing that my end is good, Now all i need is telstra clear to sort things out on their end.

coffeebaron - highly recommended! Thank you!

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  #628137 21-May-2012 01:05
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The phone wiring at my place currently looks like this:

Street =======[ WTF ] ====== ADSL wall socket

where [ WTF ] is an absolute rats nest in which several generations of previous owners have wired in either 7 or 8 cables (I can't even easily count them) leading God knows where.  The only thing in my house is ADSL (I use VoIP for my phone service) and I want to get rid of the whole rats nest and just have the wiring from the street go as directly as possible to the wall socket:

Street ==========#========== ADSL wall socket

However I have a feeling I should be putting a gas arrestor or something in there rather than just crimping the line from the street directly into the one running to the ADSL socket.  Any suggestions?

Note that I don't need filters or sockets or anything else, this line is used only for DSL, and anything I put in there should be maybe IP32 or better since it's in a slightly open area under the house.

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  #628156 21-May-2012 07:49
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Hi, no you dont need a gas arrestor, there is one at the exchange if its needed. The best connection to use is scotch locs these are water resiliant, ie the connection is an IDC one (thats insulation displacement so you dont remove the insulation to make the connection the loc will puncture it where needed) and the whole joint is bathed in water resistant gel. These are what chorus use right throughout the network.

You can get them from an electrical wholesaler, they are only a few cents each. Just get the orange two port ones

Cyril

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  #628157 21-May-2012 07:53
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I had to put phone/data inlets on a portacom and so I used one of these.



I'm sure you can get something similar.




Hmmmm


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  #628158 21-May-2012 07:54
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cyril7: Hi, no you dont need a gas arrestor, there is one at the exchange if its needed. The best connection to use is scotch locs these are water resiliant, ie the connection is an IDC one (thats insulation displacement so you dont remove the insulation to make the connection the loc will puncture it where needed) and the whole joint is bathed in water resistant gel. These are what chorus use right throughout the network.

You can get them from an electrical wholesaler, they are only a few cents each. Just get the orange two port ones

Cyril
20c a piece from Ideal on a cash account.




Hmmmm


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  #628164 21-May-2012 08:07
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Your been over charged, just checked my last Corys statement, $11 for a box of 100.

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