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#662937 27-Jul-2012 13:52

When I was re-wiring all the phone lines in our house, I disconnected the incoming line from the alarm box. We don't pay for a monitored alarm anyway, so it seemed pointless having it go thru there.

Typically, how much speed loss can one expect from Line > Alarm box > ADSL modem?

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#662950 27-Jul-2012 14:14

There isn't a hard and fast rule.

THe biggest issue with an alarm is because it's configured as a line grabber, ie phone wiring runs to the alarm and then back to the rest of the jackpoints in the home, it will disconnect your DSL every time it dials out.

Just because you're not paying for alarm monitoring doesn't mean it doesn't call out once a day and every time it's set or unset. Many do, and the alarm company just ignores this unless you pay them!

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#662971 27-Jul-2012 14:52

DarthKermit: When I was re-wiring all the phone lines in our house, I disconnected the incoming line from the alarm box. We don't pay for a monitored alarm anyway, so it seemed pointless having it go thru there.

Typically, how much speed loss can one expect from Line > Alarm box > ADSL modem?

It varies, i did one the other day and got only an extra 1Mbps on the downstream, but the upstream went from 700 to 1000Kbps, so a larger % there.

And this one I did for Mehul http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=96226&page_no=6#623691 a much bigger jump.

The first above - alarm is monitored; second sample alarm is not monitored - but still feeds through alarm!

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#662973 27-Jul-2012 14:59

Older alarms are not DSL friendly, ie they can have RF suppression caps across the line which kill the DSL in its tracks. Most modern alarms dont have such a big impact as they are a little more DSL friendly. But that does not stop the grabber action which will drop the line in the middle of the night.

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#663071 27-Jul-2012 19:25

Thanks for the above info guys. I'm glad that I removed the alarm from the loop.

I left the wire there incase some future potential owner wanted to re-connect it.

I'm not sure how old our alarm system is; the previous owner had it installed.

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#663096 27-Jul-2012 20:27

Did the alarm not come up with a fault/alert when it couldn't do it's 24hr test?

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#663171 28-Jul-2012 08:54

stuzzo: Did the alarm not come up with a fault/alert when it couldn't do it's 24hr test?

No, I don't know that it's programmed to. There was no instruction manual left behind.

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#663203 28-Jul-2012 10:32

DarthKermit:
stuzzo: Did the alarm not come up with a fault/alert when it couldn't do it's 24hr test?

No, I don't know that it's programmed to. There was no instruction manual left behind.

It's a standard feature that pretty much every installer or company would enable - typically the alarm will beep or display a warning message if the phone line is disconnected.

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#663278 28-Jul-2012 13:53

It's a standard feature that pretty much every installer or company would enable - typically the alarm will beep or display a warning message if the phone line is disconnected.

Ok. The alarm keypad is always flashing:
"1 2 3 6"

1 - 3 are alarm sectors and 6 is labeled "tampor" (sic).

4 is also an alarm sector but that one doesn't flash.

5 Isn't installed.

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#667182 3-Aug-2012 18:42

There are a lot of replies in this thread , and if anything posted is relevant to my question, do quote me. Haha. I don't quite have the time right now to read it all.

So, my question is this, how do I make sure my wiring is right, and as perfect as it can be for internet speed? Do I get a professional to come in and check stuff, and move stuff around and whatnot?

*Completely internet illiterate*

- I have no alarms and no phone line in my new house as of yet-

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#667214 3-Aug-2012 20:10

Hi, if you have a new house then you should make sure that the wiring complies with the current standards as linked below.

http://www.tcf.org.nz/content/95569cab-9c46-4d2b-b644-41540a148468.cmr

If not then ask your electrician if he is up to speed, these requirements have been about for quite some years now.

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#669304 7-Aug-2012 21:34

Is a dropping SNR margin a good sign there is something wrong with the wiring either in our house or to your house?

our Internet has been crap the last few months but I just put it down to being on slingshot and getting what we pay for.

I have noticed when the Internet is not working the SNR margin is between 4 and 6 and When it's working it's around 8-9. Attenuation is pretty stable at 32.

After reading this thread I am thinking it would be worth getting someone to look at our wiring?

There is not a central splitter we only have 1 phone. No sky or alarm.

Does anyone have anyone they recommend in the Nelson area?

Thanks

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#669309 7-Aug-2012 21:46

DragonicWolf: There are a lot of replies in this thread , and if anything posted is relevant to my question, do quote me. Haha. I don't quite have the time right now to read it all.

So, my question is this, how do I make sure my wiring is right, and as perfect as it can be for internet speed? Do I get a professional to come in and check stuff, and move stuff around and whatnot?

*Completely internet illiterate*

- I have no alarms and no phone line in my new house as of yet-

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#726438 3-Dec-2012 20:32

I finally installed a Dynamix master splitter that I purchased off trade me, in the weekend.

Wow, what a difference. I can't say that my interweb has got any faster, but it doesn't randomly drop off on a regular basis like it used to.

I was blaming the D-Link modem that came with our broadband package. The dlink isn't the best modem on the planet, but it appears that the plug in filter was causing most of the issues we were having.

According to speedtest.com:
Ping: 57 ms
Download: 16.37 Mbps
Upload: 0.80 Mbps

https://www.speedtest.net/result/2347592473.png

Is this a reasonable result?

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