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lyndondrake

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#171553 22-Apr-2015 16:08
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I've just (this afternoon) finished getting one part of our big renovation project done — undergrounding all our cabling. Power was done a few weeks ago, but getting Chorus to come and do the phone line was a longer process. Snap were very helpful in getting it sorted for us though. We did it primarily for aesthetic reasons but I thought it might be interesting for people to know what a difference it's made to line speeds for us.

We actually had a slightly bizarre experience earlier in the reno. The builders clipped the overhead phone cable, completely severing one of the two wires. We didn't realise this had happened though because the modem still managed to sync - although on the rare occasions when I had to reboot it, I did notice that it could take 5 or even 10 minutes to achieve sync, and the speed had become dreadful, dropping to about 7m downstream with lots of variability and timeouts. We just didn't realise that any cable damage had happened. Eventually I got the electrician to have a look, he found the break in the cable and rejoined it, and the line synced up instantly giving us about 24 down/6 up. (Neither he nor I understand why it worked with one cable broken. Any ideas?) BTW most of the internal phone cabling in the house had been upgraded a while back, including having a master filter put in, but there was still a short section from the overhead demarc point to the new cable within the roof space.

Anyway, that was nice, but I was pleasantly surprised by the further boost this afternoon. The electrician had already run a new cat5 cable from my patch panel to the demarc point from the underground cable, and when the very helpful and friendly Chorus tech got his new cable from the pole hooked up to that the line immediately synced, and now on SpeedTest I get 43 down/8 up.

Obviously it's not just undergrounding, as all the presumably rubbish old phone cabling in the house got bypassed, and I can't imagine it would be worth putting cable underground on the off-chance it improves speeds, but I thought the experience might be interesting to others.

(Oh, and we're not even on the schedule for fibre, hence why I don't mind spending a bit in the mean time to return to civilised world speeds. I still feel very sad when I think of my 100m symmetrical service back in England, for very little money.)

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  #1289494 22-Apr-2015 16:08
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 



 

If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

 



 

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A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

 



 

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  #1289632 22-Apr-2015 17:56
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Some of the really old overhead copper lead ins are very bad for VDSL, so this getting replaced with underground may well have played a significant role in the improvement.




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  #1291611 26-Apr-2015 08:46
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Interesting to hear that - I wonder if it could be a factor affecting the speed at our place. I pulled out our old phoning cabling and rewired our house with cat 5e and a master splitter when we moved in a few years back, but the connection still isn't much over 10Mbit/s, despite being less than 300m from the cabinet we're connected to. 

Not an issue at all for us, as the connection is very stable and plenty fast enough for our needs - and above expected minimum as per chorus.co.nz/maps. Just interesting to note as I had assumed that most or all of the copper cabling in our area would have been replaced when the cabinet was put in. Probably a bit of a silly assumption, now that I think about it!






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  #1292807 28-Apr-2015 11:02
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froob: Interesting to hear that - I wonder if it could be a factor affecting the speed at our place. I pulled out our old phoning cabling and rewired our house with cat 5e and a master splitter when we moved in a few years back, but the connection still isn't much over 10Mbit/s, despite being less than 300m from the cabinet we're connected to. 

Not an issue at all for us, as the connection is very stable and plenty fast enough for our needs - and above expected minimum as per chorus.co.nz/maps. Just interesting to note as I had assumed that most or all of the copper cabling in our area would have been replaced when the cabinet was put in. Probably a bit of a silly assumption, now that I think about it!

No way was the copper replaced when they cabinetised - massive job to do! Which is what they are of course doing now, laying fibre that will ultimately replace copper.





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Broadband troubleshooting and master filter installs.
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Cel-Fi supply and installer - boost your mobile phone coverage legally

 

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