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#1542778 27-Apr-2016 13:49

Jase2985:

Willuknight:

So I found the comments about the ethernet to telephone thing quite interesting. How much does that device cost, I couldn't find it listed anywhere.

can you explain or expand a little?

I think the question is where you can purchase a Signet ST2206 (and how much does it cost).

I don't think Signet gear is sold online at all, but you can buy it through electrical wholesalers. Not sure how much that particular unit costs.

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#1542806 27-Apr-2016 14:15

All my house connections are now cat6a including the telephone ports with RJ45/RJ11 ports. All my phone sockets are still classic POTS, but all the phones are now connected with RJ11 to RJ45 cables.

Makes it a lot easier to convert these sockets to full ethernet in future.

568A and 568B wiring caught out the alarm installer for a while, just was a change for the type of patch cable used.

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#1543254 28-Apr-2016 10:20

Willuknight:

So I found the comments about the ethernet to telephone thing quite interesting. How much does that device cost, I couldn't find it listed anywhere.

I ordered mine though my local Ideal Electrical store. It's about $49 excl. GST from memory. You should consider also getting a ST555 master splitter at the same time (if you don't already have one). That will be about $30 excl. GST. My store had to order it from another, but yours might have stock available.

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#1543264 28-Apr-2016 10:45

What does the master splitter do? I thought the ST2206 did that as well (one socket to many) ?

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#1543396 28-Apr-2016 13:34

Willuknight:
What does the master splitter do? I thought the ST2206 did that as well (one socket to many) ?

The master splitter separates the dsl signal from the phone signal. It isn't built into the ST2206 - you have to attach a splitter to it. There's a wiring diagram on the Signet website that shows how the splitter is attached.

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#1543475 28-Apr-2016 15:42

Oh right, I think my router does that, it has a phone port :)

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#1543483 28-Apr-2016 16:01

Willuknight:

Oh right, I think my router does that, it has a phone port :)

No. that phone port is for VoIP, has nothing todo with the POTS/DSL line which is what the filter is designed to work with.

This diagram is probably the best way to explain it. It gives a dedicated signal to the Modem, while splitting ONLY the telephone signal to the rest of the house.

This does essentially the same job as the plug in filters (as far as the phones are concerned anyway), but with the addition of splitting out the signal to your DSL modem to be a straight connection. This removes the Inflictions caused by joins in the cable reflecting back Derogating the signal.

*I have oversimplified a few bits in this post to make it a little more clear.

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#1543485 28-Apr-2016 16:05

@Willuknight

should you move to UFB, no filters of any kind are required.

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#1543494 28-Apr-2016 16:16

Uh, I'm on fibre, I use a homeline through Slingshot fibre, so it all goes through my router. I was mainly interested in the ST2206 because I figured it would let me use my RJ45 jacks in the house to individually connect them to the phone instead of needing to run a separate cable for the phoneline ?

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#1543500 28-Apr-2016 16:32

Then you don't need a filter, and an ST2206 will be fine - you only need to wire up the blue wires as per their instructions (pdf).

The incoming pair (a and b in the instructions) come from the Phone port on your router (or wherever your phone signal currently comes from, assuming it is POTS or has come from an ATA - which is what your router has).

You then run a patch cable from any port on the ST2206 to your patch panel, and the corresponding socket elsewhere in the house is ready for an analog phone.

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#1543514 28-Apr-2016 16:47

or just buy the device designed for fibre, the ST2210

http://signetcomms.co.nz/catalogues/SIGNET-ST2210-Voice-Hub-for-FTTH.pdf

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#1543587 28-Apr-2016 19:40

Kind of overkill, isn't it? How many internal phone jacks do you need to wire back to the router?

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#1543591 28-Apr-2016 19:51

mdf:

Kind of overkill, isn't it? How many internal phone jacks do you need to wire back to the router?

im tempted to throw on on my line just to clean things up. Certainly isn't overkill IMO.

Overkill would be using a full highly rated VDSL AIO Modem/Router purely as a POTs to Internal VOIP converter, and yet i have exactly that...

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#1543596 28-Apr-2016 19:59

mdf:

Kind of overkill, isn't it? How many internal phone jacks do you need to wire back to the router?

the ST2206 is overkill if you have fibre :)

the ST2210 is also cheaper than the ST2206 :)

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#1543598 28-Apr-2016 20:05

Jase2985:

mdf:

Kind of overkill, isn't it? How many internal phone jacks do you need to wire back to the router?

the ST2206 is overkill if you have fibre :)

the ST2210 is also cheaper than the ST2206 :)

Assuming you're using patch panels and don't need to wire directly, does the ST2210 do anything other than split one socket into four? If you don't need four wired phones, wouldn't a simple splitter do just as well?

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