Watching Spark Sport (including launch and pricing)

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#2253835 7-Jun-2019 13:38

From the SS Help page:

“Smart TVs

Spark Sport will be available as an app for compatible Samsung, LG, Sony and Panasonic Smart TVs. The Samsung TV Spark Sport app is available for download now. Apps for the other brands will be available in the next couple of months. Check back here for more details soon.

Once the Spark Sport app is available, it will work on the following models:

Samsung – 2017 models onwards
Sony – 2017 models onwards
LG – 2017 models onwards
Panasonic –2017 models onwards”

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#2253868 7-Jun-2019 14:26

This is what stops me from subscribing, you have "NBA", but when it comes to the finals, the most important games of the year, you seem to not have them within a reasonable time frame of being played:

http://iforce.co.nz/i/s5cxbz1a.dny.png

This is tomorrow's schedule. The game is live at 1pm. You have the pre-game, a bunch of filler, and the post-game, and I have no idea if/when you'll show the actual game.

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#2254213 8-Jun-2019 10:44

For those that like commentary as well as effects with the excellent pictures in Montreal FP1 VOD it arrives at 43.00 min. (First 30m caption)

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#2255021 10-Jun-2019 06:34

Currently watching the F1 in canada cast from my nokia 7.1 to nvidia shield (wired 1gbe connection). The quality is moving all over the place; like it can't work out what to stay at... Internet bandwidth is fine from me to 2 degrees but clearly I have no other view of the network beyond that. Anyone else suffering this morning? The lower quality feeds have significant juddering which is not nice to watch.

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#2255023 10-Jun-2019 06:47

I'm watching the race from the start in Chrome now and it's so juddery. It's like it doesn't know what framerate it should be at and keeps trying to guess.

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#2255059 10-Jun-2019 09:18

Someone has probably already asked this, so apologies for my lazyness not trolling through 90 pages of comments.

Will Spark Sport still show RWC games delayed with just a normal Spark Sport subscription? (matching TVNZ's coverage), I don't plan on getting RWC ticket but will be a monthly subscriber to Spark Sport.

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#2255067 10-Jun-2019 09:37

langi27:

Someone has probably already asked this, so apologies for my lazyness not trolling through 90 pages of comments.

Will Spark Sport still show RWC games delayed with just a normal Spark Sport subscription? (matching TVNZ's coverage), I don't plan on getting RWC ticket but will be a monthly subscriber to Spark Sport.

I doubt that very much. Spark Sport doesn't include RWC, you need to subscribe to RWC to access it. Incurring a one off cost to allow people to access FTA content on SS seems a waste of time and money. You can watch it on TVNZ. I assume that includes TVNZ OD

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#2255073 10-Jun-2019 09:52

That doesn't seem right, if its provided by SS and free on TVNZ, then it should be free on SS (delayed is fine) why would i watch it FTA on TVNZ if I pay for Spark Sport.

They could pepper it with ads and run the same model as TVNZ.

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#2255079 10-Jun-2019 10:02

langi27:

That doesn't seem right, if its provided by SS and free on TVNZ, then it should be free on SS (delayed is fine) why would i watch it FTA on TVNZ if I pay for Spark Sport.

They could pepper it with ads and run the same model as TVNZ.

1. Why should they spend money to add a service that is FTA? They would need to cobble something that give some all access (as I have RWC) and turn on stuff for you but not all stuff, so that you can watch something that's already elsewhere, that's a waste of money

2. TVNZ is a partner, those FTA contents are for TVNZ to monetise as they see fit. Its a partnership, TVNZ has the FTA to play with, Spark RWC has the PPV to play with.

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#2255126 10-Jun-2019 11:17

That's a very short sighted view. Its not a waste of money it as keeps me on their platform watching their ads. I would have thought that was worth the investment to tweak access settings so I can watch RWC rather than push me over to TVNZ who by all accounts are a competitor.

I am actually paying them $20 a month, if they stop developing their platform then they will fail. This type of platform will require ongoing development work so not sure why you think this will cost them, they have the people already on board, they just need to direct their efforts to this rather than something else.

This type of feature is something they should consider for their customers that pay their bills in the long term. Same model could be applied to other major events they want to charge a premium for. Give monthly subscribers access to premium content xx hours/days after the event, put in extra ads to generate revenue or how ever else you want to fund it.

The more time i'm on their platform, the less time on another platform and more likely to keep my subscription. They own the content they just need to figure out when i can watch it if I don't want to pay the premium to watch it live.

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#2255127 10-Jun-2019 11:19

Still some work to do on the iOS app...

Starting up my iPad, I selected play from the beginning rather than live, being about 40 minutes behind the live coverage. It started up and played great, so I then selected AirPlay to my AppleTV, and... it started from Live coverage. Eh? I don't think it's done that one before. Just as well I wasn't 90 minutes behind otherwise that could've been a big time spoiler.

Later on after pausing for 5 minutes, I lost the airplay connection and as usual the iPad threw some cryptic error as it always does when it drops the Airplay link for whatever reason (although I had no random drops today which was pleasing). Oddly though, there was no resume option offered on my iPad when I backed out and in to play the stream again. I dunno where the resume option has gone as it wasn't offered when I was watching a bit of the post race coverage on my iPhone and started and stopped things a couple of times.

Anyway - general playback was good. It's still all the rough edges though that make things a bit more cumbersome than they should be.

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#2255130 10-Jun-2019 11:24

langi27:

That's a very short sighted view. Its not a waste of money it as keeps me on their platform watching their ads. I would have thought that was worth the investment to tweak access settings so I can watch RWC rather than push me over to TVNZ who by all accounts are a competitor.

I am actually paying them $20 a month, if they stop developing their platform then they will fail. This type of platform will require ongoing development work so not sure why you think this will cost them, they have the people already on board, they just need to direct their efforts to this rather than something else.

This type of feature is something they should consider for their customers that pay their bills in the long term. Same model could be applied to other major events they want to charge a premium for. Give monthly subscribers access to premium content xx hours/days after the event, put in extra ads to generate revenue or how ever else you want to fund it.

The more time i'm on their platform, the less time on another platform and more likely to keep my subscription. They own the content they just need to figure out when i can watch it if I don't want to pay the premium to watch it live.

Its not short sighted you are looking at it only from your wishlist. RWC is not a Spark Sport product. Its a TVNZ and Spark Sport product. FTA is TVNZ's part, and you want Spark Sport to build a feature that cuts of its partner, a partner who has also paid money and who also deserves a return.

If RWC was only a Spark Product, then I imagine you would find that there would a be a means to watch the FTA on the app. Register (not SS) and access is free for the FTA games. Thats the easy way, but in any case SS is a partner not the sole provider of RWC

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#2255133 10-Jun-2019 11:29

If i don't tell SS what I want, how will they know?

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#2255135 10-Jun-2019 11:34

langi27:

If i don't tell SS what I want, how will they know?

Can you not see that TVNZ is part of this project, and that their part is FTA coverage, and that its fair for them to have sole use of FTA due to their investment?

Plus, you can turn your TV on, there it is. Use TVNZ OD, there it is. Its not only unfair to cut TVNZ, a partner, off, the free content is right there anyway.

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#2255249 10-Jun-2019 13:28

Technically you might be right, TVNZ might be a partner and they are paying for the right to be a partner.

From public view point, I don't see that. I see it as Spark wanting a backup plan, they are dipping there toes and they want to deliver a solid product. Spark know majority of NZ still watch freeview and would be outraged if it was solely online.

TVNZ are a short term solution nothing more.

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